Re: How Does This 440 Build Sound?
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Sounds like a nice torque monster of a build, but are you staying with manifolds or going to headers? I think you could get by a 750 or 800 cfm carb though, just my Whats gears are in the rear? Stall converter or stock??
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Re: How Does This 440 Build Sound?
[Re: bordin34]
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05/19/10 05:26 PM
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We build dozens like that but . consider stock heads for econo..use the cheapo Summit cam the 465 488 lift it is a BEAUTIFUL street cam and makes tons of torque --sounds bigger than it is and at $62 hard to beat--it will work good with those pistons and CR--we use the KB237 that gives more compression so you have to get your distributor curved JUST right and run premium pump swill--stock rockers are cool and trouble free--get NEW ones from Mopar Perf ( Marsh usually has some ) --a stock intake if you have one is great with that combo and will save some $$ and the hood will still close with any air cleaner--the Holley fuel pump is hard to beat --the Carters usually let the spring and lever pin fall into your oilpan before your first oil change-they USED to be good but now they %$#@! No need for a HV pump at all on that combo---750 Holley Vacuum or the Eddy Thunder series 800 is GREAT! It has 1 3/4 blades like everything else--the 800 is a WAG on their part--it is NOT too much for a mild 440 and they are cool right out of the box STAY AWAY from the Eddy 750's they %&#@ also! That thing will smoke tires and make over 400 HP easy as pie!! If you go with the Stealth heads a little bigger cam is fine and you will be amazed at the power for a streeter---my vote is 3.23's Ma Mopar put them in about...well near all of the big blocks because it is such a good combo--3.23 and you will drive and enjoy it more--3.55's and you will drive it less miles per year and you can always Bulb the other guy the diff the gear makes --right? Too many folks want a zillion HP on paper before they build--forget that --do a econo build and have a FUN cheap driver that will still MELT tires and with that extra $$ in your jeans you will be a happy camper in the long run--too many dragsters out there and not enough DRIVERS IMO-- Good luck!
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Re: How Does This 440 Build Sound?
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The 60303 drives very tame on the street. Daily driveability was no worse than when I had the stock cam/heads on it in terms of idle quality, smoothness and throttle response.
What kind of vacuum do you have running the 60303?
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Re: How Does This 440 Build Sound?
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What kind of vacuum do you have running the 60303?
I'm running around 9.2:1 compression with Eddy heads and a 60303. I have my initial set around 18* to get the best idle vacuum. In gear I get about 10inhg and in park I get around 12inhg. As soon as I get out cruising it the vacuum actually goes up.
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Re: How Does This 440 Build Sound?
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Thanks for the advice. I am most likely keeping the pistons, new ones aren't in my budget. I bought the block,crank, pistons, and rods already machined for $300 so I am trying to do this whole build on a budget. To raise the CR I think I am going to run the steel shim head gasket. The car will see the track maybe once a year. Is there any good literature on assembling big-blocks out there?
I'd reconmend just asking here as you can get any question you would need answered and explianed more if needed.
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Re: How Does This 440 Build Sound?
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The pistons will be fine.I used cast pistons in a few engines with no problems.My last 440 had cast pistons and ran 11.30's all day long.
If you go with the aluminum heads,you cannot use the steel shim head gasket.Use the Fel Pro gasket instead.
Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.
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Re: How Does This 440 Build Sound?
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Thanks for the advice. I am most likely keeping the pistons, new ones aren't in my budget. I bought the block,crank, pistons, and rods already machined for $300 so I am trying to do this whole build on a budget. To raise the CR I think I am going to run the steel shim head gasket. The car will see the track maybe once a year. Is there any good literature on assembling big-blocks out there?
Then in that case, run the 60303. You will be very happy with it.
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The 60303 drives very tame on the street. Daily driveability was no worse than when I had the stock cam/heads on it in terms of idle quality, smoothness and throttle response.
What kind of vacuum do you have running the 60303?
At idle in gear it's around 10" or so, at a 2000rpm cruise it's up to around 18 or so, decel is more like 25.
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Re: How Does This 440 Build Sound?
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Expansion rates are different between the two metals.Use the regular Fel Pro PT 8519 and it will be fine.
Factory uses a MLS type of gasket because of the same deal.
Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.
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