Re: Almost done, but now no back up lights on my 73 Charger
[Re: wh23g3g]
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05/18/10 12:52 AM
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quick check, if you have it, is to peek the owners manual, and see if it describes a "key reminder' for a buzzer. it would be in the book, if you have it.
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Re: Almost done, but now no back up lights on my 73 Charger
[Re: wh23g3g]
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05/18/10 01:00 PM
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Assuming of course, since the car is 37 years old you checked the bulbs.
The ground on the reverse lights is just the housing. If you look at the plug it is a single wire. You can check for voltage here in reverse. If you have voltage, it is a ground issue.
If I remember correctly the reverse harness is just two wires at the bulkhead, see picture, this is a older RR but should be similar.
It should be plugged into a something and leading to the transmission reverse switch. On this picture it is not.
If it is plugged in, unplug it and jump the two wires together as it is a little easier than crawling under the car. Check to see if the reverse lights are on. If 'on' you most likely have a bad reverse (NSS) switch. If unplugged well you know it is not plugged in and that your problem.
If not on check to see if one of the two wires has 12 volts. If no then the fuse is most likely blown.
If you get battery voltage you have a issue with the wire going to the reverse lights. The white with black tracer before the rear harness plug and violet from the harness plug to the reverse light.
Of course all of these test are done with the ignition switch in the 'on' position.
Allen
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Re: Almost done, but now no back up lights on my 73 Charger
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05/18/10 01:48 PM
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even if the adjustment was off, the backup lights should still come on (though maybe not in reverse) as he moved the lever down through the gears...at the point where it hits that contact, the lights would come on. so adjustment should be ok. and if the car doesnt start in gear, you know the switch is ok, then youres back to tracking power and ground.
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Re: Almost done, but now no back up lights on my 73 Charger
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could be worse,my back up lights come on in reverse and come on and stay on when i shift into drive ,try doing like said with a simple test light car in reverse,key on,check to see if there is any power there,your plate light is in the same harness,does that work?
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Re: Almost done, but now no back up lights on my 73 Charger
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05/18/10 02:24 PM
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stumpy youre right, he didnt, i guess i took for granted that they would have done that, lol. didnt mean to step on toes. B.
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Re: Almost done, but now no back up lights on my 73 Charger
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05/18/10 11:39 PM
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According to the wire diagram for the 73 charger it one is black and the other is black with a tracer. meaning black wire with a white line.
It should be the only pig tail sticking out of the bulkhead, like what is in the picture. the connector has two wires going to it.
If you follow one end down, it will go down to the transmission.
Since yours is a automatic there will be one wire sticking out and going to the starter relay
Allen
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Re: Almost done, but now no back up lights on my 73 Charger
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05/18/10 11:46 PM
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Sorry I only have pictures of earlier models with manual transmission but the connector is the same and the connector you jump is the one leading to the bulkhead not the transmission side.
If you take a good quality picture of you bulkhead connector I will point it out for you.
At least I should be able to.
Last edited by HealthServices; 05/19/10 12:07 AM.
Allen
Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first.
Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
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Re: Almost done, but now no back up lights on my 73 Charger
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05/20/10 01:29 AM
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since 71, the NSS has its own plug arriving DIRECTLY to bulkhead conector on Bs and Es, none intermediate plug arriving to another harness like on earliers or A bodies
three wires on them ( a 4th wire directly to bulkhead plug when AC car )... two blacks to drive reverse light ( one traced ) and one brown traced yellow ( Neutral ground ). Since 72, the brown traced got a spliced signal to inside the cab to drive the seatbelts warning signal ( relay or interlock )
one of the blacks is allways powered with Key in RUN or ACC... gets the NSS and when gearing revers this closes the circuit to energize the other black wire up to rear harness.
On back of bulkhead ( inside the cab ) these wires are white and white traced, not black, but more of the same, one enregized allways with key, and the other one just when geared in R, then arriving to kick panel plug, where becomes on violet wire up to rear lights.
You can simply unplug the NSS harness from bulkhead and jump the cavities where black wires arrives, Put the key in ACC and check the reverse lights, If they turn on, problem is at harness or NSS ( or rostercomb inside the tranny as the biggest problem )
Plug it back, and now check at NSS plug underneath the car, jump both outer terminals at NSS plug... same, they must turn on reverse light. If they do, then is NSS or rostercomb.
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