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Starter cranking voltage #698521
05/15/10 02:58 PM
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Hey guys, 75 duster with a 416 stroker and new mini starter from 440 source. The car has 1300 miles since new engine and starter, and the starter started randomly clicking at times (pulled it out and contacts were bad). The starter/alternator "Guru" in our area said this could have been caused by a low voltage situation to the starter. It has since been rebuilt with good known contacts and plunger (probably originally was made in china i'm sure). Now, before I put it in, I checked the battery for giggles to make sure there is no low voltage issues, turns out it was 12.6 volts with the car sitting for about a week. I checked the end of the big starter lug positive cable, same voltage, 12.6, and the small lug wire when key is turned to start, 12.2 volts. So after I installed the starter, I checked it again. While cranking engine, the big lug at the starter showed 10 volts and the small lug showed 8 volts under load. Nothing else was using electricity except my msd ignition box. The car cranked fine, not like it was struggling or anything. So, my question to anyone who knows is, are these voltages under load what I should see at the starter, or are they in fact too low and could have been the culprit for my new starter's contacts failing? Also, the car has been totally rewired, so I don't have any crappy old wiring I'm dealing with. The main thing is I just wanna make sure that the starter is getting the appropriate amount of voltage under load so that it lasts this time. Thanks in advance

Re: Starter cranking voltage [Re: moparmade43] #698522
05/15/10 07:38 PM
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As per notes I took for my electrical troubleshooting class: Engine cranking voltage should be within 2.5 volts of source(battery). A fully charged battery such as your should be at 12.6 volts, so 10.1 volts at the starter is fine.
(And you have to take into account that every electrical connection will have a maximum voltage drop as set by SAE. Cables(starter/alt.)=.2V max; Soleniod(relay)=.3V max so added together it's a .5 volt drop.)


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Re: Starter cranking voltage [Re: BFASTER] #698523
05/15/10 08:20 PM
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Please also note a old or weak battery can have good voltage but will fail a load test. If it fails, start with a load test at the battery followed by replacement as nec.


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: Starter cranking voltage [Re: moparmade43] #698524
05/15/10 09:25 PM
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just went thru this crap with mine turns out the batt wasnt big enough (cca) for the car. i stepped up to a 1010cca batt prob solved.
you also might wanna check the cables make sure they are the right size for what you have. and check your grounds.

Re: Starter cranking voltage [Re: WICKD6PK] #698525
05/15/10 10:38 PM
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I did read your question. And I know you said it cranked fine, right? So you DON"T need a new or bigger battery!


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