Tear down has begun
#688110
05/04/10 01:15 PM
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WILD BILL
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Kinda found what we all expected when te pan came down
I really didn't think the rod would look this bad though
Glitter every where
Looks like I also floated the valves a lttle while the motor was spinning past where we wanted to take it
They didn't all hit at least
Does look like that piston did kiss the head though
So far we don't think either are hurt but we will have to look closer once everything is clean and apart.
I will say Scott is taking this a lot better than I am.
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Re: Tear down has begun
[Re: Cab_Burge]
#688117
05/04/10 01:53 PM
05/04/10 01:53 PM
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maximum entropy
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is that rod with the piston that touched the head ?
for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
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Re: Tear down has begun
[Re: maximum entropy]
#688118
05/04/10 02:08 PM
05/04/10 02:08 PM
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quick77rt
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is that rod with the piston that touched the head ?
Thats part of my reasoning for asking as well....it sucks a bad rod bearing could cause so many issues.
Ive had an oem rod that blue in a 383 but it locked up the motor going down the interstate. That would really suck on the track.
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Re: Tear down has begun
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#688122
05/04/10 04:44 PM
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WILD BILL
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Let me see if I can answer everyones Question
We think it may have started when I first tried to fire the motor in the car and unknowingly had a needle and seat sticking open. Didn't notice that untill I saw a puddle of alky come out of the header. Thought we caught it in time and didn't hydro the motor but now it's looking like that might have caused the bearing failure which just got worse as I made the few passes I did make.
The valve float we can only atribute to the loose conv allow the motor to spin higher than we ever wanted. The piston with the missing rod bearing did contact the head but not bad and it was not one of the ones with a wittnes mark from a valve. The springs are not new and are the same ones supplied with the heads when I bought them in 2006.
Also looks like a little bearing matterial imbeeded in the cam lobes
One of the cam bearing tried to come off with the cam.
Hopefully I didn't hurt the crank to much
Full pic of the rod with the failed bearing.
Thankfuly we had a very good rod in it as I don't see how a stock rod would not have let go under these circumstances.
Thanks KI Technologies
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Re: Tear down has begun
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#688123
05/04/10 04:47 PM
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Sorta strange to float the exhaust valves, they are lighter than the intakes... were these new springs?
But isn't the exhaust much closer and chasing the valve?
Chris..
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Re: Tear down has begun
[Re: Chris'sBarracuda]
#688128
05/04/10 06:15 PM
05/04/10 06:15 PM
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Sorta strange to float the exhaust valves, they are lighter than the intakes... were these new springs?
But isn't the exhaust much closer and chasing the valve?
Chris..
Yes but you would think the heavier valve would have been floating easier and most likely sooner.... I dont know how close the valves were and I dont recall where the cam was put in at (that would tell which valve was closer)
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Re: Tear down has begun
[Re: WILD BILL]
#688129
05/04/10 06:16 PM
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dennismopar73
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hey bill sorry for all of this i was really hopping for the best just a opinon of mine blue of any sort is heat! on a crank comes from lack of oiling just like the bearing on the cam so much 'trash' metal trying to go thru and cant do you run a line off the pump to back of the motor (where the pressure gage goes)?? old ss stock trick ask scott if he thinks that cavitation of the oil pump might be another issue ??? but the bright side is it didnt kill the block all the rods stayed in anyhow bill i will be the first to make a donation to help you out just give me address to send it to and i will
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