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oil pump priming #679851
04/25/10 01:02 PM
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i have a 85 318 that sat awhile,freshened up the outside of it and installed a new oil pump,every thing is back together except dist and valve covers.how to prime the engine with oil???? thanks

Re: oil pump priming [Re: sixpaccornet] #679852
04/25/10 02:00 PM
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i have a 85 318 that sat awhile,freshened up the outside of it and installed a new oil pump,every thing is back together except dist and valve covers.how to prime the engine with oil???? thanks




It's been a while since I've worked on a small block. I assume the pump is the same as the older small blocks from the 60's and 70's in which case a 3/8" piece of hex rod turned clockwise by a drill should work fine.

Re: oil pump priming [Re: sixpaccornet] #679853
04/25/10 02:30 PM
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take out the intermediate shaft (turn it w a large screwdriver & see if it easily comes up/out & I forget which way). Need a 5/16" hex shaft or a piece of 3/8 round rod and turn the end down on your bench grinder to a hex shape to match the end of the inter shaft (be sure & deburr it) and pull the spark plugs and have a helper turn the crank w a breaker bar and a 1&1/4" socket SLOWLY CW while you spin the drill CW being carefull not to let the shaft hit the ID of the bushing (doesnt hurt to wrap several inches of it w tape) until he hits the 2 seperate sweet spots where each head starts getting oil. You're done. turn timing marks to 10BTDC w the #1 valves loose (#1 compression) and set the inter shaft/dist in to where the rotor is facing to the front and slightly to the pass side if you have your wires routed like OE which is a good idea & if not reclock the inter shaft/dist until the rotor is under whichever terminal the #1 wire is plugged into. Make sure the vac can has room to be moved a bit in either direction and line up the reluctor blade w the magnet slot and snug the dist down so it is tight but can still be moved by hand w a bit of effort and this will fire it @ 8 or 9 BTDC


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Re: oil pump priming [Re: sixpaccornet] #679854
04/25/10 04:25 PM
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A 5/16 hex-rod is the plan B U T .....

You need to protect that bushing from damage that the hex can do.

THIS is why I am in process of having a bunch of those rods PVC coated.

Re: oil pump priming [Re: dOc …] #679855
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Put black electrical tape around the rod where it goes through the bushing!

Re: oil pump priming [Re: Dodgem] #679856
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Put black electrical tape around the rod where it goes through the bushing!




NOPE ... and I can see SOMEONE have never actually DONE THIS ..or - at the very least - have not done it very much.

The oil attacks the tape .. it gums-up and can FALL OFF ...and then you have to pull the oil pump off/out.

NOT that bad of a job if it is a B engine .. but an A engine ....can be a MAJOR undertaking.

Re: oil pump priming [Re: dOc …] #679857
04/25/10 07:16 PM
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If you are careful you won't mess up the bushing. I haven't hurt one yet and I've been at it a lot of years.

Re: oil pump priming [Re: dOc …] #679858
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I've had the tape on my priming rod for 20 years maybe replaced it twice. You must use crappy tape doc.
I use the shiny black tape

Re: oil pump priming [Re: stumpy] #679859
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If you are careful you won't mess up the bushing. I haven't hurt one yet and I've been at it a lot of years.


Don't even have to be careful.


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Re: oil pump priming [Re: dOc …] #679860
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NOT that bad of a job if it is a B engine .. but an A engine ....can be a MAJOR undertaking.


Gee thank for telling me this after doing countless of each. What's the biggy with a small block other than being a little farther to reach?? Never taped a shaft either and never hurt a bushing.


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Re: oil pump priming [Re: Dodgem] #679861
04/25/10 09:09 PM
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I've had the tape on my priming rod for 20 years maybe replaced it twice. You must use crappy tape doc.
I use the shiny black tape




No .... I used a rod like the one I am having done ..... anyone ever hear of A&W Performance Products ? .. They made that rod that way many years ago. I was a dealer for them and maybe sold 50 of those.

Now the way I did pre-oiling was I used a 1/2 or 3/8 drill with a handle on it ...and would lay the drill over and let the drill run for 10 minutes or so ...while I turned the motor over with a breaker-bar.

B U T ...if you want to stand-over the motor and hold the drill steady ......

..... GO ferr it !!

Re: oil pump priming [Re: sixpaccornet] #679862
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thanks for the info everyone time to roll up my sleaves n cross my fingers







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