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Re: mini starter
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#672562
04/17/10 09:17 PM
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just a word of caution but this starter will not fit between the block and headmen headers,not sure on the other brands.
Big Block or Small with fitment issue? Mine fit on 383 w/ mini starter. 
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Re: mini starter
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#672567
04/18/10 02:36 AM
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just a word of caution but this starter will not fit between the block and headmen headers,not sure on the other brands.
Junkyard 90's dodge v8 ministarter fit perfect on my 440 with summit brand(rebadged hedman) headers.
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Re: mini starter
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04/18/10 12:24 PM
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my 440source mini starter fit with Hedman 78030's on a 451 (lowdeck), but not without a bit of massaging of one tube with a ball peen hammer and a torch 
YEP ^^^^^^^^^^^
I would like to spring for another set but figure what's the point if I have to beat them into submission.
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Re: mini starter
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04/18/10 12:52 PM
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my 440source mini starter fit with Hedman 78030's on a 451 (lowdeck), but not without a bit of massaging of one tube with a ball peen hammer and a torch
YEP ^^^^^^^^^^^
I would like to spring for another set but figure what's the point if I have to beat them into submission.
Because they cost one-fifth as much as the "perfect fit" types, which STILL sometimes require a bit of persuasion!
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Re: mini starter
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#672572
04/18/10 06:03 PM
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just a word of caution but this starter will not fit between the block and headmen headers,not sure on the other brands.
I just went through this on my 68 Coronet 383 with headman elite headers. I bought a starter for a 94 Dakota 318 and it wouldn't fit. The later model V8 starter (I checked a 2002 dakota V8) has a shorter motor then the earlier one. I probably could have fit the later starter. My local Auto store had them for $129 plus core. The Earlier unit was only $80 plus core. I ended up putting the original back in for now. I'm eventually going with a late model 6.1 based stroker so this is only a temporary setup for me and I decided to save the cash now.
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Re: mini starter
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04/19/10 07:50 AM
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on my SB I have the hedman truck headers and can R&R the starter with out removing the header I can R&R the header with out removing the starter also I run the center dump mannys on the 440 and have lots of room what part# on the headers that are tight like in the pics?? cars only? any trucks this way? may just be the style of headers and body style together that does this 
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Re: mini starter
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04/19/10 07:53 AM
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what I don't understand is all these people that say they have no problems with the headmen's and the few that do,what gives?
Alot of headers even the same part number are not the same. Why no clue old jigs, lack of quality control 
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Re: mini starter
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04/19/10 05:26 PM
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The 78030's are the ones I had trouble with.440 4 speed in a 63 Plym Savoy. You can run the mini starter if you don't mind beating the crap out of
the tube shown in the pics. It will still be very close to the headers. Large reg starter will work
with the 78030's The mini sticks out father from the block.
That's odd because I put a pair of 78030's in my '63 Dodge with a factory (truck) mini started and it clears fine! Did you have later K and engine mounts?!?
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Re: mini starter
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04/19/10 05:31 PM
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some considerations to this... B or RB blocks ?
remember the diff stroke height makes higher and wider location againts block or backwards, so then the starter
I have not seen yet diff headers for B or RB block to save this POSIBILITY
With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
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Re: mini starter
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04/19/10 09:34 PM
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B/RB use the same TC and bell on the tranz the wider part of a B/RB should be the heads not the tranz bell or starter location they use the same tranz and starter and TC well thats what I got from a 383 and a 440 in an A-body..wider at the VC not the block and tranz guess it depaends on who is bending pipes and who has been  out at lunch and bending pipes at the header factory  I have had the same part # and 2 diff header pipe shapes bends...one size to fit all kinda thing they did list them to fit 2x and 4x truck though they did not fit the 2x truck on the drive side 
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Re: mini starter
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#672585
04/19/10 09:53 PM
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mark it and bit the bullet,pull them off and clearance them now and be done you will thank yourself later they are not hot right now so get r done 
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Re: mini starter
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#672588
04/19/10 10:40 PM
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That's odd because I put a pair of 78030's in my '63 Dodge with a factory (truck) mini started and it clears fine! Did you have later K and engine mounts?!?
K frame was from 64 fury, mtr mounts correct big block mounts.
I don't see how the K frame or mounts would have anything to do with how far the Denso starter sticks out.
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I am changing my Steering box and motor&trans mounts and while I am at it thought I would put a new starter on.It's a 440 not stock any thoughts from anyone on the best starter.Are the mini starter good do they last a long time or any other ideas.
67 cars need a little rubbing to get a mini starter in if headers are used. but the mini starter is the way to go. jeff57
