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Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? #671648
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just got a chance at a dana 60 housing..
for free...
will my Mark williams axles from my 8.75 fit/work in it.?
i will be re-sizing the width to the same width as my 8.75..
and will be buying a spool/ gears. and bearings with new housing ends...
can i make these axles work..?
i also assume my billet 1350 pinion yolk will transfer over to the d60 pinion...?
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Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #671649
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From what I remember the dana has one axle 1 3/16 shorter. So if you shorten the rear 2 3/8 or offset the pinion they can work. You would also need to re spline one axle

Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: The Shadow] #671650
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I dont know how, but the custom axles in my 65 Plymouth ended up being the same length. The pinion is offset in the case to the passenger side 1-1 1/2 or so??

But the axle length might not be the only thing that can cause problems. The spline pitch on there axles are diff, even though the axle spline count might be the same, it stiff wont work...
Id do some homework on this one, starting with a phone call to mark Williams.


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Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #671651
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Standard Mark Williams spool and axle splines are a different pitch and are not recommended to be mixed with other brands.

Aside from that, as others have stated, axles are the same except for the lengths - unless you cut the housing to match them. My standard 8 3/4 rear has both axles the same length. The Dana 60 in my old Challenger had a 1" difference in axle lengths.

Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: Locomotion] #671652
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I used my axles out of my 8 3/4 that were 35 spline. I narrowed the Dana 1" shorter than the 8 3/4. That placed the one axle flush with the inside of the spool splines. The other axle had enough spline to slide deeper into the spool (the end hung inside the spool). Ran it that way 10 years. it's still in the car today.
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Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #671653
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I used a pair of 8 3/4 35 spline Moser axles in my Dana with a Strange spool with no issues.
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Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: fourgearsavoy] #671654
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I used a pair of 8 3/4 35 spline Moser axles in my Dana with a Strange spool with no issues.
Gus




hmm I had no idea the Dana60 used the same shafts as the 8.75 with the exception of length issues.


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Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: 70Cuda383] #671655
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Hey Cheap.

The pinion offset is 1 3/16. You make the pass side tube 1 3/8" shorter to get there with a Dana

If you have a Williams axles, get a willaims spool.

You're going to end up 1 3/8" shorter in total to get the axles you have to work with correct pinion offsets. What's that 11/16 shorter on each side once you get the perches installed. You may be able to cheat a bit using a wider air gap spacing in the spool with axle engagement. Sort of like what DVW did on his. See how far the axle engages in the spool.

Send me a PM with your e-mail. I have a pretty cool axle length spreadsheet.

Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #671656
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If your 8 3/4 axles are 35 spline then they can be made to work, I just went through that last fall I shorten the Ford 3/4 ton P.U. Dana 60 one inch narrower than the 8 3/4, 1/2 inch per side. I had to wack about 3/8 inch off the right side axle to make it fit without touching the left axle in the spool, I did have the Dana 60 axle shorten so the Dana 60 pinion ended up in the exact same location as the 8 3/4 pinion center was I also bought the Moser axle ends so I could use a stock inner axle seal to keep the rear end grease from leaking out of the axles onto the brake backing plates and onto the brakes. The green bearing O rings and stock foam axle gaskets would leak and seep some


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Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: 70Cuda383] #671657
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Quote:

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I used a pair of 8 3/4 35 spline Moser axles in my Dana with a Strange spool with no issues.
Gus




hmm I had no idea the Dana60 used the same shafts as the 8.75 with the exception of length issues.




Just to clarify, it's only between the same spline counts.
OEM 8 3/4" are normally 30 spline. OEM Dana 60 are normally 23(?) and 35 spline. Aftermarket 35 spline spools and axles are available for 8 3/4's and those axles are basically the same as 35 spline Dana 60 axles, except for length per application. (In car applications.)

Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: Locomotion] #671658
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OEM 8 3/4" axles are always 30 spline and some truck Dana 60's use the same spline. The only way you could use equal length 8 3/4" axles in a Dana 60 would be to use a different pinion offset than Mopar passenger cars use and then the pinion wouldn't line up with the tunnel.


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Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: John_Kunkel] #671659
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OEM 8 3/4" axles are always 30 spline and some truck Dana 60's use the same spline. The only way you could use equal length 8 3/4" axles in a Dana 60 would be to use a different pinion offset than Mopar passenger cars use and then the pinion wouldn't line up with the tunnel.



My axles (Strange 35 spline) had enough spline to allow the placement of the axle into the spool on the short tube side. The other side originally placed the end of the axle about 1/2" beyond the inner edge of the spool. The Dana placement was flush with the inside of the spool. The housing had the stock offset.
Doug

Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: dvw] #671660
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If your rear is B body width, ill make you a really good deal on a set of factory dana axles.


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Re: Dana 60 vrs 8.75 are axles the same? [Re: HemiDart68] #671661
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they are 35 spline i think..its a spool now..

i am gonna put the dana housing the same length as my 8.75 so i can keep my rims/tires..
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