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CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? #670235
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Well after test fitting the shield in the car & not being able to start any bolts I decided to be smart & test it out on the floor with easy access.
Well after grinding the seams & the bolt depressions in the case it is close but no cigar.

SO ANY IDEAS???? I thought about enlarging the aluminum inserts to make up for the close tolerance. I can get about 3 bolts in but just not the last one.

Also the floor pan & firewall are not the problem.....it's lining up of the bolt holes to the motor / transmission....

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V10

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Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: V10nacuda] #670236
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Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: V10nacuda] #670237
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I take it your working on BB 727? What year is your case? We ran into this same problem a few years ago. Our's was a 1968 big block 727 case and it wouldnt fit to save your life. But It Would fit right on the 71 up big blocks 727s.

Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: 727builder] #670238
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yes it is a Big Block.... Not sure of the case year.........I'll be darned if I am going to pay someone to move the internals of my transmission to another case... I'll shred that thing up & send it back to CSR!!!!!!!
I think I have ground away all the interference with the case itself.....IT's the fact I think the engine holes dont match...

I would have thought for $300 +$$$$$$$$ It would have fit..

Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: V10nacuda] #670239
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are ya sure they sent ya one for a big block 727?

Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: mopar dave] #670240
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are ya sure they sent ya one for a big block 727?




I wonder

V10??
that is standard small block pattern right??

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Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: Dodgem] #670241
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with my csr shield i had to cut the ears off also.

Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: mopar dave] #670242
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Well I ended up enlarging the aluminum inserts where the bolts go...2 drill sizes. It worked...

I pity anyone who tries to install one of theses in the car WITHOUT test fitting. It would be miserable!!!


O & it was defitetly the Big block version

Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: V10nacuda] #670243
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Well I ended up enlarging the aluminum inserts where the bolts go...2 drill sizes. It worked...

I pity anyone who tries to install one of theses in the car WITHOUT test fitting. It would be miserable!!!


O & it was defitetly the Big block version







Had the same problem with my new shield!!! Our old shield fit fine with this tranny but the new one I had one hole that just wouldnt go!!! I ended up forcing it and driving it home with an air ratchet! I know I goobered the hole in the block so I will have to helicoil it next time the trans is out!!!

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Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: V10nacuda] #670244
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Same problem on my '71 big block 727. The carbon fiber around the mounting hole was hitting the trans case lifting the shield slightly to where the holes were out of alignment. After fighting the shield for a few hours, I just took it off for now.
Drilling the inserts as mentioned sounds like it will work for me. I was thinking of grinding more clearance in the trans case too?
Anyhow, I'll mess with installing the shield when I get the car lift

Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: 451Mopar] #670245
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Not just a big block issue. My small block one had the same problems. I ended up grinding the case to make the holes line up. It didn't need a ton of grinding, but sure would be nice if they worked from CSR....

Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: dizuster] #670246
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I must be lucky mine fit with no problems at all.


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Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: dusturbd340W5] #670247
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I thought V10's used a small block trans? Or is this a different car?


Anyways....My CSR shield fit my BB 727 in my Challey ok. The bolts are hard to get too....but it fit just fine...but mines an older shield (5 years old?)

Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: Quicksilver440] #670248
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went straight in my BB challenger with no issues......


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Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: moparniac] #670249
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The first time I put my shield on, three bolts went in fine but the 4th one (didn't matter which one was last)was very hard to get started. After I ran it a season, the next time it went on fairly painlessly. Mine came with socket head screws(use a allen wrench), but I changed them to ARP 12 point bolts. Takes a smaller socket.
You need to fight through the pain and GET THAT SHEILD ON. It won't do your feet no good sitting on the bench in the shop.
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Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: '72CudaRacer] #670250
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Quote:

Mine came with socket head screws(use a allen wrench), but I changed them to ARP 12 point bolts. Takes a smaller socket.


And unless CSR changed them, the allen bolts were about 1/4" too long. They bottomed out in the block before they got tight. Maybe they designed it for a car with a midplate between the engine and transmission.


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Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: Diego_Ted] #670251
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both my csr sheilds on 2 different cars were off on one bolt hole.so to annswer your question NO! they are not suppose to fit,the ones that do, are mistakes.

Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: 440Jim] #670252
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Quote:

Quote:

Mine came with socket head screws(use a allen wrench), but I changed them to ARP 12 point bolts. Takes a smaller socket.


And unless CSR changed them, the allen bolts were about 1/4" too long. They bottomed out in the block before they got tight. Maybe they designed it for a car with a midplate between the engine and transmission.




Forgot that! Had to trim our bolts to get them to fit also!

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Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: bonefish] #670253
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both my csr sheilds on 2 different cars were off on one bolt hole.so to annswer your question NO! they are not suppose to fit,the ones that do, are mistakes.





If that truly is the case then their quality control is spot on perfect.

I actually took my trans down to Summit Racing and tried every sheild the had in stock and not a frikken one fit


I went with a blanket

Re: CSR CARBON Trans SHIELD.... It is supposed to fit ???? [Re: WILD BILL] #670254
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I have had five of them and they all fit terrible.

The shields for the T-400 trans don't fit either.



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