I took the car too school on Monday and by the time i got home the car was overheating (5 miles tops)

A friend took the car to the gas station for cigarettes and i got a call saying it broke down in front of the neighborhood so i skateboarded my high tailing ass down there to find that the coolant was boiling and the gauge read at 3/4s. He said the car ran out of gas and shut off, he heard back firing at the light near the gas station about 1/2 mile from my house.

Does the back firing relate to low amount of gas? There seems to be no fuel in the filter tube but maybe because of the incline in my driveway where it is sitting.

I know the overheating didn't shut off the car because last week it overheated in the drive way overflowing everywhere and killing the radiator fans and still did not shut down. but i still could be wrong.

Is overheating a common issue? i saw a thread related to over flow tanks are they necessary or just a good idea if you are having issues?

I know my water pump is working because after it overheated the first time i checked that out but over looked the thermostat.

im running water in it now, what coolant would yall recommend to use from the part shop after a flush?

I'm trying to get numerical gauges run but im so confused.

Any other ideas to why it could have shut down if not a fuel shortage?

I know my threads are a little hectic but any help is greatly appreciated, thank you.

I'd take the stat out & fill it w water only & see if that takes care of it. The slow warmup from no stat and no corrosion resistance from no antifreeze neither of these 2 omissions will hurt you for one day. then if that's it get a stant 180 stat and good ole green antifreeze (diff opinions on AF but green stuff works for me) & button her up and adding coolant till you reach the stat housing then putting on the stat will help w air pockets

you're good there.

running out of gas it goes lean and can back fire

did you get gas in it and get ti running again yet??

might want to check and see if it jumped time if it wont run now

is that the car in your sig??

nice

yikes, my fuel gauge went out when i put in the radio but i cant seem to find anything wrong with the lines with out taking the dash off. My sis was in the car when it shut down, is there anything that could account for the car shutting down like that?

Well it seems the water pump is shot, i guess last time i checked was not actually flowing but instead boiling! I should probably cut the and relax on the .

What water pump would you suggest for my application?

looking at the milodon or the GMB both high volume only 10 dollar differnce but is it a brand name factor?

What eng? stock or built? easily driven daily driver or a bit of spirited driving ?

we'll off the back i'd say spirited so i think high volume would be a good idea. although if i could figure out how to drive "easily" i'd be glad too lol. orig. 318 with a 2-212-20 cam and 600cfm eddy.

Now, i drove up to hodge shop for a drink but when i got back to check the radiator, i used a string and dropped it in, then controlled it with a glass of water.

when i dropped it in the radiator the string sunk and didn't necessarily move, however when i dropped it in the glass it just layed on the surface.

the fluid level was just below the over spill reservoir so i couldn't tell if it was flowing for me.

so may the sunken string mean the water pump is indeed working and its only the thermostat.

anyone want to try the same experiment?

its like a 5 sec experiment i didnt go anywhere before i did it.

take the radiator cap off before you turn the car on, after you did that, drop a string down the rabbit hole, make sure you hold on we don't want alice to get lost again. and if it moves or is getting pulled in then my water pump is broken.


thanks fellas. sorry for the double post im poor and if i can waste your bandwith instead of my money by golly i will.

Is it leaking water on the ground?

Any stock pump should be plenty good for your application. I'm running a stock pump on a 408 stroker that I race with no heat problems.

If you overheated the car, change the oil. Especially if it shut down.

no but that would account for the mystery wouldn't it

the engine shut down cause of low gas started right back up with a jump and some pump juice

sounds like you be hangin with the "OLDMAN"

best to check after sitting over night

fill to cold full level,start engine and run at idle for 15 mins or so

when it good and warm..t-stat open you will see the water move/flow

I use the HD stock 8 vane wp with the 5/8 shaft and large bearings

they are on the HD cooling package for cop engines

it will have ribs in stead of the gun holes alog the shaft housing

it should have the recovery tank hooked up and the rad cap should have the valve

it will push coolent out of the rad and the recover it as it cools down by a vac type system

this is normal as long as it sealed and working properly and not pizz on the ground

the pumps have a weep hole on the lower side of the shaft that will lleak water also causing a low rad and over heat problem

Are you saying you don't have a fan on the front of the motor? Stock water pump and at least a 190* stat.

I assume my power steering assembly is the reason there is no fan connected to the front of my block. I have a multi belt system and if there were a fan there it would only get in the way. However, i have a dual fan setup attached to the radiator which shorted out during the original overheat when it spilled all over my driveway. assuming the current wiring for the fan is correct all i need for the radiator fans to run again may be...

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