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Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools #669666 04/14/10 03:13 PM 04/14/10 03:13 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,102 Cochise County Arizona SPWC OP master
SPWC OP master Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,102 Cochise County Arizona	So I rented a Harmonic Balancer install tool and it went back on with no trouble,easy as can be . Now I have got to torque the Bolt that holds it on (3/4-16) I dont have access to air tools and I have tried to wedge something in between some longer bolts I had threaded into the balancer where the pulley bolts to. The bolts keep bending. I want to get this over with and torqued to the proper specs. How can I do this when my bolts keep bending and I have no access to air tools?

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: SPWC] #669667 04/14/10 03:21 PM 04/14/10 03:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,693 Surface of the Sun, AZ Hotwheelsjr I Live Here
Hotwheelsjr I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,693 Surface of the Sun, AZ	Wedge a screw driver or something similar between the teeth on your torque converter (or flywheel) and the tranny bell housing. That will keep the motor from turning over while you torque the crank bolt. If the motor is out of the car, feeding rope (clothes line) into a cylinder through a plug hole will provide a cushioned stop and keep the piston from traveling to TDC thus preventing the motor from turning any further.

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: Hotwheelsjr] #669668 04/14/10 03:50 PM 04/14/10 03:50 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	the rope in cyl is fastest in the car too use the other side to brak it loose if a helper is around screw driver to block edge and teeth on fly wheel or TC i use the same little diddy for spring swaps with head on engine also Last edited by scratchnfotraction; 04/14/10 03:50 PM.

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: scratchnfotraction] #669669 04/14/10 03:58 PM 04/14/10 03:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Before air tools I used a rope too. Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: SPWC] #669670 04/14/10 04:01 PM 04/14/10 04:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,036 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,036 Oregon	I'm always amazed when people ask this question and nobody provides a link to the tools that are available. Mancini Racing sells a damper holding tool which is inexpensive and easy to use. I also posted a new tool thread just the other day on this board for a crankshaft holding tool. 5925356-AR042.jpg (122 downloads) Last edited by AndyF; 04/14/10 04:01 PM.

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: SPWC] #669671 04/14/10 04:03 PM 04/14/10 04:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,036 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,036 Oregon	Here is a link to the tool thread that I posted a few weeks ago. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post5878114

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: AndyF] #669672 04/14/10 04:03 PM 04/14/10 04:03 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	whats a crank shaft holding tool?? I use the dogs rope then tied him back up later when done

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: SPWC] #669673 04/14/10 04:05 PM 04/14/10 04:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,036 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,036 Oregon	Here is another tool that I make for the same job. This one works with the engine on a dolly or an engine stand. The damper tool works best in the car when you can't get to the flywheel. 5925366-AR308.jpg (144 downloads)

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: AndyF] #669674 04/14/10 04:07 PM 04/14/10 04:07 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	OOOHHHH!!! thats nice bad azz dolly wheels too you seem to make top notch cool stuff there Andy

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: HealthServices] #669675 04/14/10 04:09 PM 04/14/10 04:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	Drill 2 holes in a piece of 2 feet long angle iron and bolt it to the balancer. This will give you the leverage you need. Use a stout piece of angle iron.

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: scratchnfotraction] #669676 04/14/10 04:10 PM 04/14/10 04:10 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,037 hi sharpie Moparts Linguist
sharpie Moparts Linguist Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,037 hi	I just tightened it with the flexplate on and shoved a screwdriver in one of the holes between it and the block.

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: AndyF] #669677 04/14/10 04:14 PM 04/14/10 04:14 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Quote: I'm always amazed when people ask this question and nobody provides a link to the tools that are available. Sorry... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Qty4-15-X...essoriesQ5fGear and a picture... Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: HealthServices] #669678 04/14/10 04:15 PM 04/14/10 04:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: AndyF] #669679 04/14/10 04:25 PM 04/14/10 04:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,102 Cochise County Arizona SPWC OP master
SPWC OP master Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,102 Cochise County Arizona	Quote: I'm always amazed when people ask this question and nobody provides a link to the tools that are available. Mancini Racing sells a damper holding tool which is inexpensive and easy to use. I also posted a new tool thread just the other day on this board for a crankshaft holding tool. That tool looks like it would work well,however,I want to get my truck buttoned up,and am sorta impatient and would have to wait for that tool to arrive.I rarely do any kind of engine teardowns so I would probably use that tool once a year.Id probably end up misplacing it anyway.Ill keep the tool in mind,and maybe suggest it to others. I did use the rope trick(removed the anchor line off my Jon Boat) and TA-DAH... Worked like a champ!! Tightened to 135 ft/lbs as suggested. Thanks for the suggestions. Im that much smarter now and will share the rope trick with everyone I know,whether they already know the trick or not!! Thanks again it worked like a charm!!

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: SPWC] #669680 04/14/10 04:33 PM 04/14/10 04:33 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,886 Oregon hooziewhatsit master
hooziewhatsit master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,886 Oregon	Although I suppose the rope trick only works if you have heads on it In which case one of the other tools would come in handy If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: SPWC] #669681 04/14/10 06:22 PM 04/14/10 06:22 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL Commando1 master
Commando1 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL	Crowbar. Stuck in anything that I see turn and if it stops it...

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: Commando1] #669682 04/14/10 06:37 PM 04/14/10 06:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	I don't know about anyone else, but I don't feel comfortable introducing possible FOD into my engine. I would rather stick with external remedies. FOD - Foreign Object Damage

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: Snoopy] #669683 04/14/10 06:49 PM 04/14/10 06:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,102 Cochise County Arizona SPWC OP master
SPWC OP master Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,102 Cochise County Arizona	Whats the worse a strand of string can do to an engine if it were to come off the rope.It would probably burn up in the combustion chamber and get spit out the exhaust.

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: sharpie] #669684 04/14/10 06:58 PM 04/14/10 06:58 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	Quote: I just tightened it with the flexplate on and shoved a screwdriver in one of the holes between it and the block. With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: Best way to tighten a crank bolt without air tools [Re: SPWC] #669685 04/14/10 07:41 PM 04/14/10 07:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	Quote: Whats the worse a strand of string can do to an engine if it were to come off the rope.It would probably burn up in the combustion chamber and get spit out the exhaust. It is what the rope drags into the cylinder, I would be worried about. How hard is to cut a piece of angle iron and drill two holes in it. You can get the metal for free, just go dumpster diving at any mattress supply store. They throw out all the old steel bed rails.

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