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Help!!! serious vibration #667554
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1970 Challenger , 360, 727 , 8 3/4

When going down the road , bad vibration at 45mph
and up. When putting in neutral , almost all goes away. Engine in neutral is very smooth. (all rpm's)

Trans is rebuilt, with weighted torque converter.
New trans mount. Drive shaft is balanced and new u-joints.

When unbolting driveshaft and pushing completely into trans , how much space should be at rear u-joint and rear yoke?

How can I tell if it is in the Rear end itself, bent axle, or if it is inside the trans??

Please help, Thanks Mike

Re: Help!!! serious vibration [Re: moparmikethree] #667555
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What are your driveline angles?

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Its been awhile since I checked them, If I recall it is 1 1/2 degrees down on rear end and 1 1/2 degrees up on trans. Not entirely sure but thats what I recall

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Its been awhile since I checked them, If I recall it is 1 1/2 degrees down on rear end and 1 1/2 degrees up on trans. Not entirely sure but thats what I recall



Re: Help!!! serious vibration [Re: moparmikethree] #667558
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Quote:

When unbolting driveshaft and pushing completely into trans , how much space should be at rear u-joint and rear yoke?


w the common flat aftermarker rear ext housing seal, 3/4". EDIT did the vibration start all of a sudden? Any part changes/adjustments right before it started? Does it change better or worse going from accel to decell or vice versa?

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Re: Help!!! serious vibration [Re: RapidRobert] #667559
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This car was an original slant six/ 904, Converted over to a 360, 727, everything new (everything)

When accelerating it is really bad. Feels like a tremor starting at the firewall and traveling under the console the whole way back to the rear

Vibration gets better when slowing down

Re: Help!!! serious vibration [Re: moparmikethree] #667560
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Sounds like incorrect pinion angle.

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After the swap was it OK then it developed? W the trans mount/bolts good I'd open up the ujoints & check for any needle problems/looseness anywhere.


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Are the balance weights missing from the torque converter? Check the U-joints to see if they are centered in the yokes, if they are not they will bind and cause a bad vibration.

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All u-joints are new, but I rechecked them, all needles are good , and u-joints are greased.

torque converter does have the weight on

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when you disconnect the driveshaft and push completely in how much distance to the rear yoke?

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Mike has it vibrated like this ever since the swap? My money is still on the driveshaft (angles/ujoints). On my 65 dart 318/904 I used a driveshaft that was too short and the yoke did not engage the tranny splines enough (way more than 3/4") and you could feel the play of the yoke on the splines as you slid it in and it vibrated mostly on decell but nothing like yours is. I found the correct shaft that was less than an inch longer & that solved it


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Checked pinion angles with suspension loaded
as driving down road

Drive shaft angle is -2 degrees down towards rear

output shaft of trans is at 0 degrees

Rear end at flange is -3 degrees.



What is needed, do I have to lift the trans?
or change the rear end?

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It has been there ever since the swap.

I had the tires road force balanced

Re: Help!!! serious vibration [Re: moparmikethree] #667568
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I've seen the weights come of the torque.
check and see if the u joints stayed centered may a clip is off??

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I had a similar problem with similar symptoms on my Challenger. Turns out that my brand new, and supposedly balanced driveshaft wasn't balanced at all...

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weights are still on the torque,

What about the readings for the pinion angle







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