THAT'S IT. I'VE HAD IT WITH THIS FUEL PUMP
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So, earlier, I had good pressure and no leaks and I was feeling pretty good.
took time out to change the plugs and wires on Gina's mini van and then go to double check the pressure at the regulator as well as show dad all was good and I have no pressure at all and it's making a awfull noise
Make sure their was fuel in the cell and there was. Even added a little just to be safe.
Try again and no change.
Drain the cell and take it all apart again. Rotor seized to the shaft and little metal dust all over
Tomorrow I'm going and picking up the MF. I'm done with this one
Try agian
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Re: THAT'S IT. I'VE HAD IT WITH THIS FUEL PUMP
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It was a BG 400-2
That's what I run Bill 400-2 (titanium) it's been working well for two years now....sorry to hear your having problems, but I do believe if your going to stay with that style pump you really need to mount it vertical
Rickster
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Re: THAT'S IT. I'VE HAD IT WITH THIS FUEL PUMP
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Is this the one you bought cheap at a swap meet?
Yes it was. And for a while I thought I got a deal.
I probably wouldn't near as upset about it had it not worked fine just a couple hours earlier
After this and the carb that wasn't what it was supposed to be it'll be a long time before I buy something of the sort at a swap meet again.
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Is this the one you bought cheap at a swap meet?
Yes it was. And for a while I thought I got a deal.
I probably wouldn't near as upset about it had it not worked fine just a couple hours earlier
After this and the carb that wasn't what it was supposed to be it'll be a long time before I buy something of the sort at a swap meet again.
I agree with you on that one, just not worth it with a lot of the used parts.
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Re: THAT'S IT. I'VE HAD IT WITH THIS FUEL PUMP
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04/08/10 07:12 AM
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So, earlier, I had good pressure and no leaks and I was feeling pretty good.
took time out to change the plugs and wires on Gina's mini van and then go to double check the pressure at the regulator as well as show dad all was good and I have no pressure at all and it's making a awfull noise
Make sure their was fuel in the cell and there was. Even added a little just to be safe.
Try again and no change.
Drain the cell and take it all apart again. Rotor seized to the shaft and little metal dust all over
Tomorrow I'm going and picking up the MF. I'm done with this one
Try agian
Sorry...Bummer, don't BG pumps have a history of leaking?
I don't think the mounting positon has anything to do with the leak.
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why not send it to BG and have them rebuild it???
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Thats why we call his parts " Barry Can`t"
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Re: THAT'S IT. I'VE HAD IT WITH THIS FUEL PUMP
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Bill... are you pumping alky now... are you running a top end lube....... I've never been a fan of BG stuff.... sorry too hear it didnt want to play... its a never ending story
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Better ? is why won't they send me the parts so I can do it my self? I'm not going to support their buisness practice of not sending out repair parts
And I'm not one to push my junk on anyone else. I know you know me better than that.
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Well I have been using a BG400 for a few years. I did have one leak once when the car sat for a few months and I did not drain the tank. Put in a new seal and it works fine again. Unfortunately due to not being able to get a seal quickly I ended up buying a second pump. Now I have a spare, that works fine. As for them not selling the parts, I can sort of understand that. I mean if it were to be improperly repaired and leaked everyone will bad mouth the piece and therefore the manufacturer, just my Mallory also does not sell the parts to repair thier pumps or regulators as well. I have used them in the past and had them rebuilt by Mallory with no issues. I would be willing to bet most companies do not sell repair parts for their products for the same reason. Also how can you condemn the pump maybe it was a defective seal??? FWIW it is the same seal and o ring arrangement as Magnafuel, and PE as well. Just saying....
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Better ? is why won't they send me the parts so I can do it my self? I'm not going to support their buisness practice of not sending out repair parts
And I'm not one to push my junk on anyone else. I know you know me better than that.
Bill the original 400-2 that came in the roadster was an Alky setup. It had sat for a couple of years and they never drained the tank, I flushed it all out good and when I fired up the new bullet on gas it never leaked, but the 1st time at the track it would lose pressure after the hit....ended up pulling it apart and the inside of the pump was all corroded from sitting for so long with alky in it, but it never did leak, my system is set up per BG's instructions and as said previously haven't had a problem with the new one and it sits for months at a time with fuel in it
I would send it in and let them rebuild it, IMHO, they really are a good pump
I also understand them not wanting them worked on by anyone else, but do think they should supply additional gaskets with instructions when you buy a new one just in case, not everyone can afford to have a spare sitting on the shelf
Rickster
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Gentelmen, Please don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to bash BG or say they have bad pumps. I'm refering to this one pump alone. That's all.
Can I understand their buisness pactices, sure. That doesn't mean I have to agree with them. Does their stuff do the job, Obviously or there wouldn't be so many people running tham.
Please don't take my frustrations with this one used swap meet pump as I'm trying to condem the whole company. Had I bought it new I highly doubt I'ld be in the pickle I'm in.
It wasn't new. I have no idea of the history and that's soley why I'm going with a new pump at the point.
I don't think anyone here thinks you are Bill, just trying to be helpfull
Rickster
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It was explained to me on the phone why the mounting makes a differnece and it made perfect sense to me then. Something like the ammeture/rotor have a certain amount of float to them and because of their weight , if it is mounted sideways or upside down that will trash the seal. It was designed to be mounted upright.
If you get a new pump, or rebuild this one, do yourself a favor and mount it upright.
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Gentelmen, Please don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to bash BG or say they have bad pumps. I'm refering to this one pump alone. That's all.
Can I understand their buisness pactices, sure. That doesn't mean I have to agree with them. Does their stuff do the job, Obviously or there wouldn't be so many people running tham.
Please don't take my frustrations with this one used swap meet pump as I'm trying to condem the whole company. Had I bought it new I highly doubt I'ld be in the pickle I'm in.
It wasn't new. I have no idea of the history and that's soley why I'm going with a new pump at the point.
I don't think anyone here thinks you are Bill, just trying to be helpfull
Rickster
Thanks Rick. I just wanted to be clear just in case someone might have read it the wrong way.
I do appreciate everyones help. That's what were all here for right? Help and supprot.
Thank you all
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It was explained to me on the phone why the mounting makes a differnece and it made perfect sense to me then. Something like the ammeture/rotor have a certain amount of float to them and because of their weight , if it is mounted sideways or upside down that will trash the seal. It was designed to be mounted upright.
If you get a new pump, or rebuild this one, do yourself a favor and mount it upright.
Ck out the post by Tech@BG, he didn't mention that? web page
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It was explained to me on the phone why the mounting makes a differnece and it made perfect sense to me then. Something like the ammeture/rotor have a certain amount of float to them and because of their weight , if it is mounted sideways or upside down that will trash the seal. It was designed to be mounted upright.
If you get a new pump, or rebuild this one, do yourself a favor and mount it upright.
Ck out the post by [Email]Tech@BG[/Email], he didn't mention that? web page
Not every tech at any given manufacturer thinks the same or has the same knowledge.
That being said, the poster admitted the INSTRUCTIONS say to mount it vertically and the TECH did say on here they want it that way so the motor won't fill with fuel.
If you still want to question this or mount yours sideways then please don't come on here complaining.........
Are you sure??
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It was explained to me on the phone why the mounting makes a differnece and it made perfect sense to me then. Something like the ammeture/rotor have a certain amount of float to them and because of their weight , if it is mounted sideways or upside down that will trash the seal. It was designed to be mounted upright.
If you get a new pump, or rebuild this one, do yourself a favor and mount it upright.
Ck out the post by [Email]Tech@BG[/Email], he didn't mention that? web page
Not every tech at any given manufacturer thinks the same or has the same knowledge.
That being said, the poster admitted the INSTRUCTIONS say to mount it vertically and the TECH did say on here they want it that way so the motor won't fill with fuel.
If you still want to question this or mount yours sideways then please don't come on here complaining.........
Are you sure??
Not sure what you read, but from what I read it CLEARLY proves to me their pumps are meant to be mounted vertically and that is backed up in the 400 instructions....where specifically are you having a problem with this
Rickster
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It was explained to me on the phone why the mounting makes a differnece and it made perfect sense to me then. Something like the ammeture/rotor have a certain amount of float to them and because of their weight , if it is mounted sideways or upside down that will trash the seal. It was designed to be mounted upright.
If you get a new pump, or rebuild this one, do yourself a favor and mount it upright.
Ck out the post by [Email]Tech@BG[/Email], he didn't mention that? web page
Not every tech at any given manufacturer thinks the same or has the same knowledge.
That being said, the poster admitted the INSTRUCTIONS say to mount it vertically and the TECH did say on here they want it that way so the motor won't fill with fuel.
If you still want to question this or mount yours sideways then please don't come on here complaining.........
Are you sure??
Not sure what you read, but from what I read it CLEARLY proves to me their pumps are meant to be mounted vertically and that is backed up in the 400 instructions....where specifically are you having a problem with this
Rickster
I'm just messing with his head, I don't have any problem. I always follow the manufacturer instructions, they know there products better than me.
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