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Rust Advise #656172 03/30/10 07:30 PM 03/30/10 07:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California 1 1970Cuda440U OP member
1970Cuda440U OP member 1 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California	I appologize if this seem basic. This is my first car restoration and I don't have much experience in the restoration process.I picked up this '70 cuda and want to restore it. I wasn't looking for a huge project but couldn't pass up this u code for the price. When I tore out the interior I found a lot of surface rust. The car hasen't seen the road since '88 so I'm sure to find much more. What is the best way to tackle this? Wire wheel and sand paper, Media blast, rust converter, or acid dip the entire car. I'm not much of a body man, but looking to learn. Thanks in advance.

Re: Rust Advise [Re: 1970Cuda440U] #656173 03/30/10 07:35 PM 03/30/10 07:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 849 New Jersey F FC7 cuda super stock
FC7 cuda super stock F Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 849 New Jersey	Nice car when did you get it?

Re: Rust Advise [Re: 1970Cuda440U] #656174 03/30/10 07:38 PM 03/30/10 07:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California 1 1970Cuda440U OP member
1970Cuda440U OP member 1 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California	Thank you, I got it about 3 weeks ago.

Re: Rust Advise [Re: 1970Cuda440U] #656175 03/30/10 07:53 PM 03/30/10 07:53 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,821 New State kidmopar master
kidmopar master Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,821 New State	How far do you plan on going into this restoration? Nut&bolt? Driver? TONS of variables ....... my

Re: Rust Advise [Re: 1970Cuda440U] #656176 03/30/10 08:05 PM 03/30/10 08:05 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	That thing looks like it was in a swamp for a little bit, yet WAY cleaner than stuff around here, I'm envious.

Re: Rust Advise [Re: buildanother] #656177 03/30/10 08:10 PM 03/30/10 08:10 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,831 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,831 Kirkland, Washington	Quote: That thing looks like it was in a swamp for a little bit, yet WAY cleaner than stuff around here, I'm envious. after seeing the pic of the clean body then the pic of the roof I thought---HUMIDITY! It could be treated and done on the cheap, or painstakenly restored. Wonder what the trunk looks like.

Re: Rust Advise [Re: kidmopar] #656178 03/30/10 08:13 PM 03/30/10 08:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California 1 1970Cuda440U OP member
1970Cuda440U OP member 1 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California	I know there are so many ways to go with the restoration. I started out wanting just a simple driver, however I feel like I am moving more towards nut and bolt, if that makes sense. I don't think I'm going to make a show car, so I guess I'm looking to make it a very clean driver.

Re: Rust Advise [Re: 1970Cuda440U] #656179 03/30/10 08:25 PM 03/30/10 08:25 PM
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1970Cuda440U OP member 1 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California	The trunk!

Re: Rust Advise [Re: 1970Cuda440U] #656180 03/30/10 08:26 PM 03/30/10 08:26 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 843 Suffolk,VA I ireland383 super stock
ireland383 super stock I Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 843 Suffolk,VA	How's the underside and frame?

Re: Rust Advise [Re: ireland383] #656181 03/30/10 08:40 PM 03/30/10 08:40 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	If it's going to be a 100 point resto, then media blasting would be my choice. If it's going to be a driver or budget friendly job, then I'd wire wheel it, then hit it with some rust converter followed by some epoxy primer to seal it up.

Re: Rust Advise [Re: ireland383] #656182 03/30/10 08:47 PM 03/30/10 08:47 PM
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1970Cuda440U OP member 1 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California	The underside and frame will need to be cleaned up and undercoated. Frames have some surface rust but they are solid. No cancer anywhere on the car that I can see exept the drivers floor pan.

Re: Rust Advise [Re: 1970Cuda440U] #656183 03/30/10 08:51 PM 03/30/10 08:51 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	Ya think it was converted to stick?, or did the dana get peddled?

Re: Rust Advise [Re: buildanother] #656184 03/30/10 08:56 PM 03/30/10 08:56 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California 1 1970Cuda440U OP member
1970Cuda440U OP member 1 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California	Yep, at some point the previous owner was going to put a stick in it. Horrible start at it too. I keeping the automatic tho.

Re: Rust Advise [Re: 1970Cuda440U] #656185 03/30/10 09:02 PM 03/30/10 09:02 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 136 Oshawa, Ontario, Canada MoparSam member
MoparSam member Joined: May 2004 Posts: 136 Oshawa, Ontario, Canada	Any cool options on the car? Does it still have the fender tag? moparsam

Re: Rust Advise [Re: MoparSam] #656186 03/30/10 09:09 PM 03/30/10 09:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California 1 1970Cuda440U OP member
1970Cuda440U OP member 1 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California	I have the fender tag. I guess A/C would be the best option it has. I think I have it coded correctly. BS23UOE LINE 1 E86 440 - 4hp D32 HD A-727 TorqueFlite BS23 Cuda Coup LINE 2 FK5 Dark Burnt Orange Metallic H6XW High Price All Vinyl Bucket Seats - Black/White 000 Upper Door Frame, Full Door Panel CO5 Dec 5th 62467 vehicle order number - 62467th vehicle made LINE 3 FK5 Burnt Orange A62 Rallye Instru Cluster B51 Power Assit Brks C16 Console w buckets C55 Bucket Seats H51 sgle air/W heater LINE 4 J25 3sp Var Wiper J45 Hoodpins w/lanyards M21 rf drip rail moldings M25 wide sill mold M31 belt&hood mold M88 low deck lid mold LINE 5 N41 duel exh w/o tips N42 crome duel exhst tips N85 tach R11 Music master radio am

Re: Rust Advise [Re: 1970Cuda440U] #656187 03/30/10 10:49 PM 03/30/10 10:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada R RUNCHARGER I Live Here
RUNCHARGER I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada	Great car! I would have someone you trust media blast it. You may have to replace the roof but that wouldn't bother me a bit. What you don't want to do is put rust convertor or some other half hearted measure on the underside of the roof, paint the car and have problems later. Now that AMD makes such good panels it's a breeze to fix problems like that. The floor panels are available as well and are easy to weld in properly. Sheldon

Re: Rust Advise [Re: RUNCHARGER] #656188 03/30/10 11:00 PM 03/30/10 11:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A. M mike s top fuel
mike s top fuel M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A.	IMO unless you are starting with a cream puff go ahead and Media blast the car.It will save a ton of time and give you the best quality resto.Besides it's nicer working on bare clean metal. The car is worth the work. Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike

Re: Rust Advise [Re: mike s] #656189 03/30/10 11:12 PM 03/30/10 11:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,654 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,654 Hamtramck, PA	Quote: 62467 vehicle order number - 62467th vehicle made 062467 is the VON, but the order number is from the original order form, it has nothing to do with the order the car was made in.

Re: Rust Advise [Re: Alaskan_TA] #656190 03/30/10 11:41 PM 03/30/10 11:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California 1 1970Cuda440U OP member
1970Cuda440U OP member 1 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 California	Acid dipping worth the money? Thanks to all for the replies and advise.

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