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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: Commando1]
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03/30/10 05:42 PM
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I have followed a couple of stories about the trials & tribulations guys went through converting their four door sedan to a two door post, and, quite franky, I (Joe Average hacker) could never, ever do it.
Your mileage may vary....
That's totally different than what the OP wants to do. He wants to change a 2-dr post into a 2-dr hardtop, totally different ball game than changing a 4-dr into a 2-dr.
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: QuickBpBp]
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03/30/10 05:55 PM
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SELL your post car and buy a hdtp.... 
TOO LATE!!!  Too much money into it now and too far taken apart (all the way). I may end up keeping it a post car, but sheesh... can't be THAT tough considering it is a shell right now.
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: Dougsmopars]
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03/30/10 06:13 PM
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 I thought about doing the same thing to a 70 Superbee I had years ago. There is a little more involved than just whacking out the post, but it is do-able. I sold it not because it was a post car, but because an RT came along which I was looking for in the first place. But before I sold it I made the choice to leave it because not only are they a little bit more unique than the hardtops, but it will draw red flags to anyone who knows anything about mopar vins or if you ever try to sell it. Scott
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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03/30/10 06:15 PM
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That's totally different than what the OP wants to do.
No it isn't. It's exactly the same.
Trying to alter a unitized body/frame from one style to another.
The hardtops were not sedan cars with the post SawzAlled off...
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: Commando1]
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03/30/10 06:32 PM
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That's totally different than what the OP wants to do.
No it isn't. It's exactly the same.
Trying to alter a unitized body/frame from one style to another.
The hardtops were not sedan cars with the post SawzAlled off...
that's what I'm looking for: what's different? If it's much more than a few spot welds, forget it!!!
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
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03/30/10 06:52 PM
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OK, I'll see if I can help you. I have a 68 coupe and a 69 hardtop. Here is what I can tell from looking at them. First and obvious is the post. It looks like 3 or 4 spot welds at the top and 4 spot welds at the base to get the post off. The door jamb panel (where the striker mounts) is different. The hardtop has a cutout for the rear window to come up out where the coupe does not. The upper interior rear panel is notched for the sedan. The hardtop is straight. The upper trim piece is also notched to clear the post on the coupe. The door glass is different. The hardtop has a trim piece that butts up between the quarter window and door glass. The glass is also shaped differently at the top rear. Then there is the window mechanism, and the various stops and brackets. There are fuzzies to seal the rear glass to the quarter panel. And a different rubber seal at the door jamb to close in the rear window opening. Lastly, you will have to pop a hole in the door panel for the window crank and add the crank.
I think I covered it.
If you need pics, let me know.
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: PAINT IT BLACK]
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03/30/10 07:02 PM
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Yes, Steve; it is a dumb idea!....and you know I mean this in the kindest possible way.  I also kinda prefer a hardtop (hard to beat with all the windows rolled down) but the post does have strength, weight and rarity going for it. I certainly wouldn't change it because a) it would be a royal pain in the azz and b) the car would no longer match the VIN making for some  ..there has to be some good original post 1/4 glass out there somewhere. If I had some I'd send 'em to ya! after screwing around with my window regulators, I was starting to wish mine was a post car!  Dave
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: RoadRunner]
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03/30/10 07:40 PM
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OK, I'll see if I can help you. I have a 68 coupe and a 69 hardtop. Here is what I can tell from looking at them. First and obvious is the post. It looks like 3 or 4 spot welds at the top and 4 spot welds at the base to get the post off. The door jamb panel (where the striker mounts) is different. The hardtop has a cutout for the rear window to come up out where the coupe does not. The upper interior rear panel is notched for the sedan. The hardtop is straight. The upper trim piece is also notched to clear the post on the coupe. The door glass is different. The hardtop has a trim piece that butts up between the quarter window and door glass. The glass is also shaped differently at the top rear. Then there is the window mechanism, and the various stops and brackets. There are fuzzies to seal the rear glass to the quarter panel. And a different rubber seal at the door jamb to close in the rear window opening. Lastly, you will have to pop a hole in the door panel for the window crank and add the crank.
I think I covered it.
If you need pics, let me know.
Yikes. Yes... very dumb idea... I don't hate the post. I was just thinking if it were an easy swap, now'd be the time to do it. But alas... nothing is easy.... Carry on!
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: DPelletier]
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03/30/10 07:43 PM
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Yes, Steve; it is a dumb idea!....and you know I mean this in the kindest possible way.
I also kinda prefer a hardtop (hard to beat with all the windows rolled down) but the post does have strength, weight and rarity going for it. I certainly wouldn't change it because a) it would be a royal pain in the azz and b) the car would no longer match the VIN making for some
..there has to be some good original post 1/4 glass out there somewhere. If I had some I'd send 'em to ya!
after screwing around with my window regulators, I was starting to wish mine was a post car!
Dave
Guess I'll just have to settle for the new wavy glass that's available. Bummer. There really is a big difference between the manufacturers of new glass. How freakin' hard would it be to snag some perfect used post car glass...!
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: Dougsmopars]
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03/30/10 08:01 PM
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Check with E.C.S. they may have the glass your looking for. If not contact your local autoglass company. There are suppliers out there selling good glass not that china made crap you see on ebay.
Already got the lowdown from ECS. They said the good supplier doesn't make post car glass and they don't sell it.
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: CrazyD]
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03/30/10 09:04 PM
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Sounds like something seen on failblog.org
That's why I asked. So I didn't "fail". 
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: PAINT IT BLACK]
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03/30/10 09:06 PM
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Sounds like something seen on failblog.org
That's why I asked. So I didn't "fail".
I would be more than happy to help.....I just did this Suburban roadster. 
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: OzHemi]
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03/31/10 06:29 PM
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If you have a donor vehicle, you don't need a 70 Coronet for the required pcs, any 69-70 B body, Plymouth or Dodge, including Charger will yeild all the pcs required, you could use a 68, but the glass runners are narrower, and the door glass rear vertical chrome is smooth in appearance, unlike the 69/70 pcs, plus the 68 stuff as far as regulators don't quite line up bolt hole wise, but would work ,....you'll need to change out the door glass as it's different between post/hardtop, any 69-70 B body, including Charger glass will fit, including vent window IMHO the hardtop looks so much better than the post,....thumb your nose at originality, do the car the way you want,......Pssst, Black on Black would look REALLY Killer on that Bee! 
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Re: How hard to convert post car to hard top?
[Re: DAYCLONA]
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03/31/10 06:30 PM
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