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Factory rear sway bars? #649183
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Was a rear anti-sway bar an option during the 60's and 70's on ABE cars? Or was it just a AAR thing? I was flipping thru some reference books and I don't see much on rear bars but I'm not sure if they are just rare or if they really weren't available until later.

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76 police spec A body is the only A body I know of with a factory rear bar


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I had a 72 roadrunner that had a rear bar.

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I do not think any cars got rear bars prior to 70. I could be wrong.

The 70 E body AAR & T/A's came stock with them but initially the R/T's & cuda's didn't.

Sometime in the 70 year (I think around Jan) the Challenger R/T's and Cuda's got them as standard equipment and continued to get them through the 74 Challenger Rallye's & Cuda's.

The B bodies didn't start getting them until 71 and then only on R/T's, Road Runners, GTX's, & I think Superbee's (Not sure about the Superbee's). In 72 or 73 when the Charger Rallye's appeared they had them also.

A & C Bodies.... Who cares they were A & C bodies.

Seriously I don't know about the A & C Bodies.

The F & M Bodies had them but I am not sure what the criteria was. Aspen R/T's, Cop cars and such i'm sure.

I am sure that there were other ways to get them such as Police & Tow Packages but I am not sure which options would call them out.

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The B bodies didn't start getting them until 71 and then only on R/T's, Road Runners, GTX's, & I think Superbee's (Not sure about the Superbee's). In 72 or 73 when the Charger Rallye's appeared they had them also.





No rear bars on b-bodies in 71', 72' was the first year.


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The B bodies didn't start getting them until 71 and then only on R/T's, Road Runners, GTX's, & I think Superbee's (Not sure about the Superbee's). In 72 or 73 when the Charger Rallye's appeared they had them also.





No rear bars on b-bodies in 71', 72' was the first year.




The 69 LAPD spec B-bodies had a rear sway bar. It's listed in the parts book. Unique to those cars. I've seen one for sale, but I don't know if I have a good picture of it.

IIRC, it looks more like a 71 B-body than a E-body one.

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Right on the 76 A-bodies with the cop package getting them, Theres that article in Mopar Mag like 12 years ago how to modify an M/F body one slightly to fit A-body..looks almost identical to the 76 model.

And even though no one cares about the A-bodies with rear bars, they'd sure out-handle the B body cars with or without them.


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E-bodies they were avail in 70-71 , ( not sure of availability on the later cars but I assume they were )

I don't think the Dana equipped E-bodies were avail with the rear bar


the earlist I've ever seen one on a B-body was 71/72 vintage.

and I think the 73/74 B-body bar is different than the earlier one

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is the rear bar for a 72 B-body the same bar as 73-74 vintage or is it the same as the E-body bar and mounts

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In 72 if you got the 15 by 7 Rallye rims you also got the rear bar (72 Rallye Charger)

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The bars for the B bodies were the same style through 74 and later but different than the E Bodies.

The B bodies bolted the ends of the bar on the frame and used links to hold the length of the bar to the plates under the springs. Like the picture above.

The E bodies mounted the bar to the frame rail and used links to connect the ends of the bar to the plates under the springs.

The only part that may be swappable is the frame rail mounts but E-bodies are welded together where the B bodies I have are bolted together.

As a side note the Dana Equipped B's used a drop down bar like the above pic but the 8-3/4 cars used a straight bar.

AFAIK the only difference in the 73 up and the older B bars was the plate under the springs. The 73 and newer used the isolated spring mounts so the hole in the center was larger.

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For the most part, dimensionally, the bar itself was the same (except 72’ Dana, note the dip in the bar in the above picture), the standoffs were slightly taller for 73 and up than they were for the 72’ versions. The later spring isolator mount raised the anchor/mount plate higher in ration to the differential. Since the bar was originally serviced with the standoffs, different part numbers were used.
There is a later b-body(Cordoba/Charger?) bar with a slight dip more towards the center having the taller standoffs, not positive on the application but I believe may have been used with the 9-1/4” rear.
Am currently running one these on my 72’ RR/Dana until I can find one of the original Dana bars.


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Andy I am the 2nd. owner of my 'Cuda and I know that it came with a rear bar. It was an original '72 340 4-speed car.

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I've seen on of the '69 Plymouth cop cars with a rear bar in the junkyard. I got the hemi style brake booster from the car but didn't have the right tools with me to pull the rear end and bar.

'71 B-bodies have all the mounting holes predrilled for rear bars. I can't imagine that none came with one. Maybe just cop cars.

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'71 B-bodies have all the mounting holes predrilled for rear bars. I can't imagine that none came with one. Maybe just cop cars.




I've seen plenty of them in '71 and I have 2 '72 with rear bars one is a 72 RR with Gtx package and another is a SSP 400 4spd. Both factory...

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here is my work in progress, its a 70 4.10 b body dana in a 71 cuda, trying to make a 71 super trac pac set up, does this look right? does it look like your 72 cuda set up? bolts to the frame and connects to the upper leaf spring bracket, please pardon the dust

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Yep that is the E body setup.
Looks good.

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nice, thank you, i got skeered after looking at the other pics

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'71 B-bodies have all the mounting holes predrilled for rear bars. I can't imagine that none came with one. Maybe just cop cars.




I've seen plenty of them in '71 and I have 2 '72 with rear bars one is a 72 RR with Gtx package and another is a SSP 400 4spd. Both factory...



Locating holes for the anchor bracket bolts are present on 71' b-body frame rails making retrofit of the 72' and later rear bars very easy. Likely, there are/have been many 71's running around with rear bars, fact remains for 71' the factory never offered a rear bar factory installed on the b-body, with the possible exception of a special order Police package.

"72 RR with Gtx package"?
There wasn't a "GTX" package or option offered in 72', any U or V coded 72' Road Runners were renamed "Road Runner GTX".


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Here's a pic of the 71-72 B body rear bar axle plate..

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And what's left of a 73-up bar with the later axle plates..

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