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Transmission oil for A833 question #648111
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Which transmission oil viscosity will work best in a A833 gearbox ? SAE 90 or SAE 140? The tempratur here in Denmark is normaly between 18C to 28C in the sommertime.

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: AAR70] #648112
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im using penzoil syncromesh manual gearbox oil.seems to work good.

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: cuda-sweden] #648113
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Viscosity SAE 90 or SAE 140 ?

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: AAR70] #648114
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I allways used type F auto trans fluid. Allways shifted beautiful never had any trouble

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: Dougsmopars] #648115
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SAE 90 WT gear oil,....don't run ATF or syncromesh

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: DAYCLONA] #648116
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Redline advertises that it is good for 833's. 75-140. Check it out.

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: DAYCLONA] #648117
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Why do you say don't use ATF? Every New process 833 i ever had came with trans fluid in it. Service manuel only recomends gear oil in hot climates like new mexico. I'm in New England and never open up one that had gear oil from factory. And in all the years i beat them i never broke one.

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: AAR70] #648118
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Redline 75W-90NS, shifts smooth at all temperatures.


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Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: AAR70] #648119
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I have 90w in my '68 833, tried synchromesh first and it poured out anyplace that has a seal, the 90w doesn't leak

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: AAR70] #648120
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Viscosity SAE 90 or SAE 140 ?


the penzoil syncromesh doesnt say anything about viscosity on the can,only that its for chevy and chrysler transmissions,but then it says that its not for all manual transmissions.my gearbox leaks in the same places with both 90sae and syncromesh.those places are at the front next to the input bearing(where the other axle rests in the casing) and at the rear bushing/seal.

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: cuda-sweden] #648121
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ATF is all you'l ever need...If you wan't it to shift

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: AAR70] #648122
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If you go with SAE 90, make sure it does not have limited slip additive added - some types of SAE 90 that I've seen say that they are ready for limited slip rear ends and already have the additive in it, and the limited slip additive can cause probelms with your synchros. Other than that, everyone seems to have their own opinion on ATF, Gear Oil, of Synchormesh Transmission fluid - I've tried them all, and all of them work, but have gone with SAE 90 because it seems to leak less and is way less expensive to refil than the Synchromesh Transmission fluid. ATF leaked like water through a siv...


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Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: Evil Monkey] #648123
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Have a read.................


Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: 76Beeper] #648124
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I think Passon sells his own super secret lube mix that's supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread for these transmissions...

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: Evil Monkey] #648125
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If you go with SAE 90, make sure it does not have limited slip additive added - some types of SAE 90 that I've seen say that they are ready for limited slip rear ends and already have the additive in it, and the limited slip additive can cause probelms with your synchros. Other than that, everyone seems to have their own opinion on ATF, Gear Oil, of Synchormesh Transmission fluid - I've tried them all, and all of them work, but have gone with SAE 90 because it seems to leak less and is way less expensive to refil than the Synchromesh Transmission fluid. ATF leaked like water through a siv...




Its actually the GL-5 rating (extreme pressure additives for rear ends) that you want to avoid. Its those additives that are not long term compatible with the brass synchros. You want to find a GL-4 lube.
Although I imagine ANY gear lube that already has limited slip additive is also going to be a GL-5 so yea--you want to avoid it from that perspective.

Find a GL-4, Redline makes several, as does Amsoil, Pennzoil Synchromesh ect. Gl-4's in the common shelf brands, like Valvoline/Castrol etc are hard to find. For me anyway.

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: cuda-sweden] #648126
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Thank you for input, I will first test the 90 SAE.

Re: Transmission oil for A833 question [Re: AAR70] #648127
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This topic has been aired on MOPARTS many many times. The results are that anything works for everybody. I'm the original owner of my car. Bought it brandy new in 1968. It had gear oil in it when new, I drained it because I couldn't get into 2nd gear when cold and put ATF in it. Regular Dextron, althought Type F works well also. That's 40+ years ago. I've never broken a transmission, there is no noise and it works for me and guess what??? ATF will stay in my trans.


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