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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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03/22/10 02:15 AM
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I thought Julius' RR was a '68. 
"Omaha Orange" started life as a fleet color "safety orange" and was used by many automobile & truck manufacturers for DOT vehicles and other state & federal agencies. Its popularity on some muscle cars namely California Road Runners, Barracudas, & Bengal Chagers led Chrysler to market a similar hue (EK2) with gold metallic in it as "Vitamin C" for the Plymouths and "Go Mango" for the Dodges starting in the spring of '69.
A clearer image of that page at this link;
http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/TSBs/1969/69-23-18.jpg
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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03/22/10 02:25 AM
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Where was the LA MOPAR assembly plant? The Ford plant was in Pico Rivera, near Santa Fe Springs. What's with the 6 digit ZIP CODE on Doug's window sticker?  Dodge used 960xxx Shipping Order Numbers for their 1968 "dealer anouncement cars". 
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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03/22/10 02:32 AM
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Santa Fe Springs to Glendale ~ 21-miles Google Maps did the car have miles on it when Doug purchased it? Does he remember the day/date when he purchased it? LA assembly plant to Auto pre-check ~ 7-miles Google Maps check out the satellite view. 
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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03/22/10 02:44 AM
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I think he was referring to the SO number for my car being 960192
68 Road Runner
67 Coronet
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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03/22/10 02:45 AM
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Unless it was driven from Auto Pre-Check (if that was its destination in Santa Fe Springs?) to Glendale where Doug picked up his 999 '68 Road Runner when it was "NEW". I know this is crossing Dodge/Plymouth lines, but the '68 Charger R/T pictured which I believe to be a "dealer announcement unit" with a SO# of 960172 VS. Jim's 999 '68 Road Runner's with a SO# of 960192. & there are plenty of "special" early '69 Dodges & Plymouths with 96xxxx VONs.
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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03/22/10 03:00 AM
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I'm going to have to get ahold of Doug and ask him some questions about the car when he got it. I see the destination charge was like $149. Was the destination charge a flat fee at the point?? My dad said back in the 40's and 50's and before you could pick up a car in Detroit and save shipping costs. The farther your dealer was from Detroit, the more destination charge you paid. But at some time they did away with picking cars up in Detroit. Way before 1968 I'd think. Quote:
Santa Fe Springs to Glendale ~ 21-miles Google Maps did the car have miles on it when Doug purchased it? Does he remember the day/date when he purchased it?
LA assembly plant to Auto pre-check ~ 7-miles Google Maps check out the satellite view.
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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03/22/10 03:10 AM
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OK, I am on the same page now. Once again, I do not look at '68 stuff much, but..... If they are the same as later cars & the way the VONs worked, early 96xxxx cars would be sales bank / prodotional use. It may just mean special order later in the year. If the orange cars were used at an event, or at dealerships to promote the new color, then that would be a promotional use even that late in the year. Libraries with old CA newspapers on microfiche would be the place to look for any promotional ads.
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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03/22/10 03:13 AM
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But at some time they did away with picking cars up in Detroit. Way before 1968 I'd think.
Special driveaway (plant pick up) was still available in the 1970s.
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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03/22/10 03:28 AM
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Was the destination charge a flat fee at the point??
Yes, the destination charge on a '68 Road Runner sold at Glendale CP should be the same no matter which plant it was built at.
The destination charge on a HEMI Road Runner built in Detroit would be the same as a 383 coupe built in Los Angeles, as well as a GTX convertible built in St. Louis. A-bodies were less & c-bodies were more. There may be a few more variables, but that is the jist of it. I have a chart with '68 shipping rates - somewhere.
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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03/22/10 03:32 AM
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OK, I am on the same page now.
Once again, I do not look at '68 stuff much, but.....
If they are the same as later cars & the way the VONs worked, early 96xxxx cars would be sales bank / prodotional use. It may just mean special order later in the year.
If the orange cars were used at an event, or at dealerships to promote the new color, then that would be a promotional use even that late in the year. Libraries with old CA newspapers on microfiche would be the place to look for any promotional ads.
Reading the Jett article, maybe they used promotional code to fake out the system to use the fleet color. Maybe that's a fleet SO # also.
Looks like they batched the Orange cars for paint booth purposes. I bet the eight cars between the two cars mentioned here were also 999 orange.
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Re: 1968 Road Runner - paint code 999 - VIN, VON confu
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03/22/10 07:54 AM
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I would say it was an Orange car as well. But I would really look in the hard places for color.
I'm 92% at this point.
Orange paint in the indentations of the body number stamping on the trunk and stamping on the radiator support. Orange paint fading to bare metal in the trunk rail right next the the body number stamping.
Edit: Those new interior pics seal the deal for me. Any questioning those?
The pics look good to me as well. I'm all in at 100% Omaha Orange!
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