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Re: 1968 Road Runner - paint code 999 - VIN, VON confu
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I should have mentioned that when the car was painted silver it was just sanded down and sprayed. It was not taken down to bare metal or media blasted or anything like that. There is still lots of orange paint in the car; for example most of the trunk is still orange.
In this case, I am happy that there is still a good amount of original paint on the car. Hooray for cheap paint jobs!
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Re: 1968 Road Runner - paint code 999 - VIN, VON confu
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DAMN
Awesome Pics Cuda!
Thats what my car should look like!
Except with Vinyl Top and black stripes
I think the black pin stripe on the car I pictured might be the black side stripes you mention? 
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Re: 1968 Road Runner - paint code 999 - VIN, VON confu
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These two cars seem to have been very similarly optioned. I believe that my car had the lower body mouldings as well. I do not have a pic tht shows it. My recollection was that there was some shoddy body work covering up the attachment points.
Would be interesting to see how the production date, VON, SPD, VIN of the 68 RR in the pictures above compares to yours.
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A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, VON
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Ok, I saw Doug's 68 Omaha Orange RR that he bought in 1968 this morning at the B&M car show. This is the car I posted pictures of above . . . . . . . .  BINGO !!! I had a hunch. Your car has a VIN just EIGHT at the L.A. plant before Doug's 68 RR pictured above bought new at Glendale C-P. Yours is 167192 Doug's car is 167200 !! Both cars have the same SPD fairly late in the model year, June 24, 1968. The cars are VERY similarly equipped on the fender tag. Yours has y-6 and z-8 his doesn't. His has has axle code 45, yours is 4. His is 4 speed with different tire option. The VON's (edit: S.O.'s) are way different. Anyone's thoughts on that?? Here is Doug's window sticker: 
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, VON
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Ok, I saw Doug's 68 Omaha Orange RR that he bought in 1968 this morning at the B&M car show. This is the car I posted pictures of above
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BINGO !!!
I had a hunch. Your car has a VIN just EIGHT at the L.A. plant before Doug's 68 RR pictured above bought new at Glendale C-P. Yours is 167192 Doug's car is 167200 !! Both cars have the same SPD fairly late in the model year, June 24, 1968.
The cars are VERY similarly equipped on the fender tag. Yours has y-6 and z-8 his doesn't. His has has axle code 45, yours is 4. Don't know the difference between bottom line 3 46 numbers he has and the 5 44 you have.
The VON's are way different. Anyone's thoughts on that??
Here is Doug's window sticker:
In 68 that would be an SO not a VON.
Dealers typically got their sales order forms from their sales reps. The reps had boxes of them that were in numeric order that they dispersed throughout their group of dealers that they called on. When the dealer got low on them they got the next numbers that the rep had. He may have given the previous numbers to your new batch to a dealer many miles away from your dealership. So in this case, the SO numbers for these cars could simply be a matter of the dealer running out of the cronological numeric forms and began writing orders on the new batch he got. There is no magic in it and trying to corrolate V.I.N.s with SOs or VONs sometimes works and sometimes not because of this.
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, VON
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In 68 that would be an SO not a VON.
Dealers typically got their sales order forms from their sales reps. The reps had boxes of them that were in numeric order that they dispersed throughout their group of dealers that they called on. When the dealer got low on them they got the next numbers that the rep had. He may have given the previous numbers to your new batch to a dealer many miles away from your dealership. So in this case, the SO numbers for these cars could simply be a matter of the dealer running out of the cronological numeric forms and began writing orders on the new batch he got. There is no magic in it and trying to corrolate V.I.N.s with SOs or VONs sometimes works and sometimes not because of this.
Opps, I should have known that.
Could this car have been built to put into the sales bank without the dealer specifically spec'ing it out. I thought there were cars built that were not specifically intended for a particular dealer. The xxx200 car was not ordered by the customer. It was on the lot.
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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Great Work AutoX!!
I feel like I have found my car's long lost twin. They were both built in the same plant on the same day, both 999 cars.
I got stuck watching the kids and wasn't able to play with the car, but I will soon.
Differences:
3 speed auto v 4 speed manual
Options only mine has:
Vinyl top
Peformance hood treatment
Driver's Outside Remote Operated Mirror
Options only his has:
Tach
I am amazed at how many things on the right side of that window sticker refer to safety this or safety that.
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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This is what the interweb is giving me.
5 44 =
TRANSMISSION: 3-Speed Automatic
TIRES: F70x14 Red Sidewall, Steel Belted
3 46 =
TRANSMISSION: 4-Speed Manual Floor Shift
TIRES: F70x14 White Sidewall, steel belted
The tire code does not appear correct as the window sticker lists red streak tires.
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Re: 1968 Road Runner - paint code 999 - VIN, VON confu
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Couple more pics of the car when it was purchased
Just noticed no flat black on the rad support behind the grille. Maybe had a thorough repaint at some point in time?
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Re: 1968 Road Runner - paint code 999 - VIN, VON confu
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Couple more pics of the car when it was purchased
Just noticed no flat black on the rad support behind the grille. Maybe had a thorough repaint at some point in time?
From the picture I assumed it had been repainted. But you just need to pull up the carpet and feather edge sand to the bare metal to show all the layers of paint. Same for a the underside frame rails.
I think it pretty obvious this car was an Omaha Orange 68 RR. And the fact there is another 8 VIN's away batched with it even refutes it more.
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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This is what the interweb is giving me.
5 44 =
TRANSMISSION: 3-Speed Automatic
TIRES: F70x14 Red Sidewall, Steel Belted
3 46 =
TRANSMISSION: 4-Speed Manual Floor Shift
TIRES: F70x14 White Sidewall, steel belted
The tire code does not appear correct as the window sticker lists red streak tires.
The only problem I see with the above decode info is - the tires were NOT "steel belted". They were "nylon ply" & I have not seen any evidence that anything other than a Goodyear "SPEEDWAY" tire was used in this application. The 44 code "red streak" F70-14 tire was STANDARD on the '68 383 Road Runner & the 46 code "white streak" F70-14 tire was a "NO COST" option. The fact that it doesn't appear on the window sticker MAY be as simple as it wasn't a "cost" item.
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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interior pics 1
I just wiped it down with some waetr as it was pretty dusty.
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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As far as the S.O.#s being so off, you'd have to ask Doug a little about ordering the car. #1 Was it a Chrysler employee, FLEET account or "Military Order"? #2 What was the circumstance that caused the "SHIP TO" address to be different than the "SOLD TO" dealership? #3 What/Who is "Dallas Smith"? Funny thing  NO CHARGE for the "special order" OMAHA ORANGE. 
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Re: A match!!: 1968 RR - paint code 999 - VIN, SO
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Interior 3
If there is a better way to post pics - someone let me know lol
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