New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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Was wondering if anyone else has had any issues with new Edelbrock carbs lately? I bought a model 1411, which is a 750 carb with electric choke, for my 69 Super Bee 383 car.Installed it with a new filter and ran new steel lines to clean up the old rubber hose stuff. After installing and adjusting things seem to go very well until I drove it to work and got the car hot. It appears I either have a flooding issue or gas boiling in the bowls cause the car doesn't want to start after sitting for about 10 minutes or so. I can get it to go but you gotta crank for awhile and cram the acc. to the floor. Called the tech guys and they said to add a spacer to isolate some of the heat. I had a phenolic one so I did that. Ran the car last night some and it appeared to help but not totally correct my problem. I'm close to taking it back to O Reilly's for another but was just wondering if anyone else has run into this on these. I've had lots of Holleys and Carters over the years and haven't had this type of stuff. On my brand new carbs, it has been hookup adjust and go. Any thoughts? Thanks!
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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run,dont walk and take that junk back. get your cash back. get a holley ASAP.
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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I have an edelbog on my car, and it has the same issues. It also is a 750cfm. Last year I "borrowed" my dad's 600 cfm edelbrock for a while, and I was surprised how much better it ran with a different carb! I now have the 750 back, I have been able to tweak some stuff to reduce the bog...but still there. Soon to make some changes..Try going with the 800 or 650 cfm if you are hell bent on an edelbrock. Hope this helps!
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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I wish I had seen that old post. Actually I don't have a stumbling problem at all. It works well when I can get it to run after it heats up.I'll mess with it this weekend and see what happens but back it'll go if I don't get things resolved by Monday.
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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ran new steel lines to clean up the old rubber hose stuff.
The steel lines will absorb much more heat than rubber lines.
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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The 5/16 phenolic spacer seems to have cured my hard start but I must have a vacuum leak somewhere now. It runs fine but at the hit of the throttle at times I get a whistle. Maybe a slight leak around that spacer I put on.
1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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Messed with that 750 carb the rest of the day after getting back from the Indy Mopar Swap. Made no headway with it so I took the carb back to O Reilly's last night. They didn't have anymore 750's in the store but they did have a model 1406 600cfm so I got that one. Stuck it on when I got back and after tweaking a little it seems to run well. Didn't notice any hard start after heat but we'll see,time will tell. Trying to get this car in shape for the Mopar Nats in August.
1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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There are two models of 750... the 1411 is the "correct" one for your application, but there's a couple things I would have checked. First is float drop. Any carb that gets dropped just right could have a low float or two. Second is the step up springs. They are supposed to ship with the 5"Hg springs but I have seen the wrong ones in there before. Either of those two things being off could cause the issues you have. Heat is rarely a problem unless it's parked hot for an hour or more but doesnt cool down enough to need the choke. 10-15 minutes is not enough time for the fuel level (if filled properly) to evaporate that far.
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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When I got the carb to the store the counter guy said I could have taken it apart if I wanted to and it wouldn't void the warranty. The tech guy from Edelbrock didn't give me that impression but that'll be my course of action if I have an issue again. My thinking too was I just paid 300 bucks for this and I shouldn't have to disassemble and troubleshoot that far.I would like to know what the problem is though.It appears to have been an issue with that particular carb however. The 600 I got works fine after heated up and sitting.
1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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x2 I took my new 750 back and got the 600 I can tell I lost a little top end,but gain way more "drivabilty" can stomp it from a 750-850 idle and never miss a beat all the way to 5000rpms banging gears picked up low end and throttle responce
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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I got the same thing. Response pretty good and driveability better than the 750. I'll like the 600 as I drive to the Mopar Nationals this year over the 750 in the long run.
1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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I would have to say that with all my years working with carbs and mainly buying Carters and Holleys that this is the most I've had to do to any of those beyond the normal tweeking to get results.
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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run,dont walk and take that junk back. get your cash back. get a holley ASAP.
that is a smart man. why anybody would run a Carterbrock carb is besides me. go get a holley and be done.
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Re: New Edelbrock Carb Issues.
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and enjoy fuel leaks.
fuel leaks with what??? a holley? I've had several and know nothing about fuel leaks.
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