World block users
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On a World block where did you tap an oil accumulator into? I'm running a standard internal oil pump with a pick up. Can I use the external oil input line above the oil filter location?
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1.298 60 ft
6.001 1/8 mile
114 mph
9.52 1/4 mile
140.87 mph
@ 3110 lbs
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Re: World block users
[Re: brktracr]
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03/06/10 02:13 AM
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Hello, If your using the internal pickup etc, just plumb the accumulator directly into the large -12an JIC port by the timing chain cover (driver side). I ended up using that port for part of my duel line system, and purchased a Canton Oil filter Oil Input sandwich adapter. The Port feeds directly to the main/oil galley supply... 
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Re: World block users
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Doesn't that port feed the oil pump (supply side)? Putting the accumulator there would prime the pump, but I don't think it would feed the mains.
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Re: World block users
[Re: brktracr]
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03/07/10 10:30 AM
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On a World block where did you tap an oil accumulator into? I'm running a standard internal oil pump with a pick up. Can I use the external oil input line above the oil filter location?
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internal oil pump?
must be an LA engine?
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Re: World block users
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You might be wrong on that location Bob, i'll look at my world block info, but I recall that that port is for external oil pick up, if so it would put the oil from the accumilator back to the pan. I think the small port opening to the right of that on the side goes to the mains.  
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Re: World block users
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, but I recall that that port is for external oil pick up, if so it would put the oil from the accumilator back to the pan.
Yes. the front port is fed directly to the suction side.
quote from the instruction World products sheet :
"If you require additional stroke clearance, you may run an external pickup tube from the block face to the oil pan. An AN-12 boss (1 1/16” x 12 TPI) is machined on the front face of the block which connects directly to the inlet side of the oil pump. An AN-12 fitting can be installed here to connect directly to the oil pickup tube in the oil pan. You must plug the oil pickup tube adapter in the crankcase with a ½” pipe plug when using this modification. "
Link for instructions : http://www.worldcastings.com/products/wedge-aluminum-block.html
On my 572 we used the front port as well as a Milodon adapter on the oilpump for the dual line external oil system....worked much better with the 4.5 stroke crank. An internal pickup did fit but it was losing oil pressure as the engine rpm's increased. 
Ron
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Re: World block users
[Re: brktracr]
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03/07/10 12:15 PM
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Durand you need to use the ports at the rear of the block, IMO the easiest cleanest place for the accumulator line to go. As pointed out by some here that front port is a suction side from the pan, NOT a port to the engine. It leads to the pan and the oil pump.
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Re: World block users
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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03/07/10 01:43 PM
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Thank you for the input.
Durand
1.298 60 ft
6.001 1/8 mile
114 mph
9.52 1/4 mile
140.87 mph
@ 3110 lbs
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Re: World block users
[Re: moparniac]
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03/07/10 07:26 PM
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I don't remember what size those are 1/4 NPT or 3/8 NPT??
1.298 60 ft
6.001 1/8 mile
114 mph
9.52 1/4 mile
140.87 mph
@ 3110 lbs
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Re: World block users
[Re: Bob_Coomer]
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03/07/10 10:37 PM
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Doesn't that port feed the oil pump (supply side)? Putting the accumulator there would prime the pump, but I don't think it would feed the mains.
Well the port leads directly to the main/cam area. It talks about using this port in this fashion in the supplied paper work that's supplied with the block..
In the AM (not at home) I will scan the paper work and post it up if anyone is interested in this type reading material.
But can say I have a Indy Maxx Wedge making good power in its 3rd season right now plum'd in this fashion, just to let you know I try to give advice, that I didnt read in a mag, but have real world experiance with..
so is this info incorrect?
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Re: World block users
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Doesn't that port feed the oil pump (supply side)? Putting the accumulator there would prime the pump, but I don't think it would feed the mains.
Well the port leads directly to the main/cam area. It talks about using this port in this fashion in the supplied paper work that's supplied with the block..
In the AM (not at home) I will scan the paper work and post it up if anyone is interested in this type reading material.
But can say I have a Indy Maxx Wedge making good power in its 3rd season right now plum'd in this fashion, just to let you know I try to give advice, that I didnt read in a mag, but have real world experiance with..
so is this info incorrect?
Yes it is, sorry for the confusion, I went back today and looked how I had it plumbed and through the paper work..It does say it feeds the inlet side of the pump. I dont know what i was thinking, I even had my engine duel line setup running to this port.....sorry. 
But lots of guy running it this way, when they just plump it in to a oil cooler, or regular old sandwich adaptor.
Here is some reading I dug up on Cantons web site..I ended up ordering a Input oil adaptor that sandwiches the oil filter.
http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/TechPages/Oil_System_Adapters_Tech.html#question3
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Re: World block users
[Re: Bob_Coomer]
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I thought it looked pretty big for a pressurized port. That would elimate the need for the Milodon plate between the block and the pump. That would take the stock length pump drive then, correct?
Floyd Lippencott IV
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