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Motor plate waterpump sealing questions???
#630631
03/04/10 07:47 PM
03/04/10 07:47 PM
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Chicago,Illinois
nosboy
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I have a Brand new 1/4 inch thick 6061 T6 motor plate . I was told to use YAMABOND (the stuff that seals casehalves on motorcycle and snowmobile engines) and NOT to use gaskets... I rebuilt snowmobile motors in the 1980's and 1990's and used YAMABOND without issues... Does ANYONE use stuff like that in place of water pump gaskets????? BTW,,, its a 4.5 inch bore WORLD PRODUCTS 440 block stroked to 572..
Last edited by nosboy; 03/04/10 09:15 PM.
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Re: Motor plate waterpump sealing questions???
[Re: nosboy]
#630632
03/04/10 07:50 PM
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long island NY
Ari440
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permatex ultra grey
on my moter plate to water pump
no gaskets
1.39 9.85 - 137 mph
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Re: Motor plate waterpump sealing questions???
[Re: nosboy]
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03/04/10 08:01 PM
03/04/10 08:01 PM
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Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
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I have a Brand new 1/4 inch thick 6061 T6 motor plate . I was told to use YAMABOND (the stuff that seals casehalves on motorcycle and snowmobile engines) and NOT to use gaskets... I rebuilt snowmobile motors in the 1980's and 1990's and used YAMABOND without issues... Does ANYONE use stuff like that in place of water pump gaskets?????
I use Yamabond or a good RTV... I like the Mopar black
RTV... no gaskets
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Re: Motor plate waterpump sealing questions???
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#630635
03/04/10 08:04 PM
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Black RTV here too.
Never any problems.
67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119
68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152
414 cid SB Dragster 7.65-174
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Re: Motor plate waterpump sealing questions???
[Re: nosboy]
#630638
03/04/10 08:47 PM
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Akron, Ohio U.S.A.
roadhazard
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If you guys that use sealer have to take the water pump off at the track for some reason what do you do? I've run my MP-15 gaskets on my POS motorplate that is all eaten from corrosion with NO sealers and no leaks either. I drive it on the street, race it at the track and I know it's flexing all over up there and yet the nuts on my water pump studs stay at the same torque level un like others I've used in the past. When I pull my motor (soon I hope) the gaskets WILL go back on for another reuse. 
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Re: Motor plate waterpump sealing questions???
[Re: Ari440]
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03/04/10 09:17 PM
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cl440
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permatex ultra grey
on my moter plate to water pump
no gaskets
have used both Ultra Grey and Ultra Black and have never had a leak. I had a leak with gaskets before. Got a little hairy at the 1/8 mile one night and lost me a round!! Never again!!
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Re: Motor plate waterpump sealing questions???
[Re: roadhazard]
#630642
03/04/10 10:35 PM
03/04/10 10:35 PM
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If you guys that use sealer have to take the water pump off at the track for some reason what do you do?
I've run my MP-15 gaskets on my POS motorplate that is all eaten from corrosion with NO sealers and no leaks either.
I drive it on the street, race it at the track and I know it's flexing all over up there and yet the nuts on my water pump studs stay at the same torque level un like others I've used in the past.
When I pull my motor (soon I hope) the gaskets WILL go back on for another reuse.
who makes the mp-15 gaskets? 
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Re: Motor plate waterpump sealing questions???
#630643
03/04/10 10:39 PM
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Jacksonville, FL
Chris2581
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Moparts member Roadhazard makes them. I want 4,PM me to give me the skinny on how to get them.
Nautilus Racing-
We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.
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Re: Motor plate waterpump sealing questions???
[Re: roadhazard]
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03/05/10 12:36 AM
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aotearoa
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i have Mezzaires reverse flow pump. with std water pump gaskets they leak as they don't line up the holes correctly.(why do gaskets have D shaped holes?  ). anyway i make my own gaskets with round holes, smear synthetic grease on them & have had zero failures in reguard to water leaks, my gaskets also get recycled a few times & it's so easy to clean up. one wipe with the rag & we're done & the grease seems to prevent the ali motor plate from pitting. kind of a win win situation. gaskets are made from the packaging from the beers that go in the frig. howzat for recycling?
Last edited by rebel; 03/05/10 04:06 AM.
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Re: Motor plate waterpump sealing questions???
[Re: rebel]
#630648
03/05/10 04:36 AM
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Russiaville, IN
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I quit using gaskets last year and use "The Right Stuff"
No leaks on either car.
Why does divorce cost so much?
Because it is worth it!!!!!
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Re: Motor plate waterpump sealing questions???
[Re: roadhazard]
#630649
03/05/10 12:28 PM
03/05/10 12:28 PM
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The MP-15 material was originaly developed for the heavy duty diesel market. Designed to maintain bolt torque on low to medium torque applications. This material does not wick fluids as may be seen with some carb base gaskets or intake gaskets when they get fuel soaked. When this happens it brakes down the binders that hold the polymers and fibers together and then you start the degeneration of the gasket. This MP-15 material also has a high shear and tensil strain rating and is very flexible.
Superformance Products, Greg
I will try those when I am ready to assemble
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Re: Motor plate waterpump sealing questions???
[Re: Ari440]
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03/05/10 12:55 PM
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Apollo, PA.
B1MAXX
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Quote:
permatex ultra grey
on my moter plate to water pump
no gaskets
same here
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