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Super Stock I/A The Ridddler #627051
02/28/10 04:02 PM
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Info needed , Hi I have just purchased a 1970 Ply Duster Drag Car body in white. This car appears to have alot if history in all three sactioning bodys if the early '70s NHRA, IHRA, AHRA. I would like to find printed info to document this car, Race results, pics etc.or anyone that might remember this car. I am trying to determime if this cars history will add enough value to it warrant a correct restoation. I would appreiciate any help. The body was sold to Colletti Chy/Ply 6-25-70 and was raced by Richard Shippley from Balt. Maryland. Richard raced the car a few years and then traded it for a 70 Challenger, the second owner was Ben Disibbo from Bluefield WV. I was told that the Colletti Family owned 3-4 speed shops. This car was supposedly backed by Chrysler. This was run in the SS/IA Class. The cars number was 1564. Thanks Dan

Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: danspony] #627052
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Found this picture here. http://www.mts.net/~57ford/reunion12.html

Some neat old nostalgic pictures from Bison Dragway.

Good luck with the car and keep us posted........BTW, where's your pictures?

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Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: S/ST 3040] #627053
02/28/10 05:24 PM
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i got a few pics of it somewhere..let me see.

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365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured
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Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #627054
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not sure if its the same car...maybe just a grille change for the yr update..?


365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured
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Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #627055
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i recall seeing it in differnt paint schemes..
either way..id say that car is pretty significant in original livery...fwiw..
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365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured
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Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: danspony] #627056
02/28/10 07:47 PM
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It is a shame that Richard just passed away a few months ago I went to the viewing and they had a pic of it there.I am sure if richard was around he would give you some history of the car.I will ask my dad to see if he knows or has pics of the car as he raced with rich around that time.

Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: grncpe] #627057
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Check with David Hakim, he is a member here.

Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: Frito] #627058
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I owned one of the Riddler Team cars ('72 Road Runner SS/KA w/400).

I may still have some of the teams marketing materials.

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Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: Frito] #627060
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Jump to the Moparts General section and read my "Made in Detroit"..Not!!! thread that's more sideways than '64 Super Stock Hemi Dodge on bias-ply street tires!!!

Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: David Hakim] #627061
03/01/10 09:56 AM
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That's a cool Duster! Look at that second paint job!

That would be a fun one to restore to "As Raced"


Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #627062
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Can you posts some pic of what it looks like now??

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Was the car originally a white car? Was it a body in white or a normal production car?

Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: danspony] #627064
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Hi and thanks for all your help, I just purchased this car and got it home a few weeks ago, I came real close to cutting it and putting a strut front end on it. But now with eveyones help, the plan is to restore it to it's original condition. I am not the swiftest on the computer (stuck in the 60s) so if anyone would like to call 330-316-4407 or mail Dan Sukosd 8491 Justus Ave. SW Navarre Ohio 44662 or email sukosd@verizon.net I do know how to use pony express. Thanks the info has been great the pictures are neat! I will post pics as soon as I learn how.

Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #627065
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Yes the car is a body in white I have the original MSO with Collettis name on it and Richard Shipleys name too.

Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: danspony] #627066
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Bodies in white came with an MSO?
I thought an MSO was only needed for a car with a VIN.
I once owned a body in white Duster, no VIN, no MSO (or if there was one it was never passed along).

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Bodies in white came with an MSO?
I thought an MSO was only needed for a car with a VIN.
I once owned a body in white Duster, no VIN, no MSO (or if there was one it was never passed along).




My Horizon was a BIW. Herb McCandless and Chick DeNinno, who built the car, both have never said anything about an MSO.

A BIW was just a "part" through Mopar Performance/Direct Connection, just like the DP Challengers of today.

Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: sixpakdodge] #627068
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An MSO is for any vehicle that would not have a title. Yes there typically is a vin or serial number in the case of Chrysler bodies in white they did not come with a dash so no vin tag

Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: danspony] #627069
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Are you sure there's not a VIN, or VIN stamping on the cowl and core support? Is there a VIN on the MSO?
All new cars with VINs come with MSOs, not titles. Titles are issued by the states they are sold in. The MSO is turned in to the states DMV and the title is then issued. There is no reason to have a MSO if there is not a VIN.
There's no doubt your car is well known enough to deserve an 'as raced' resto.

Re: Super Stock I/A The Ridddler [Re: danspony] #627070
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Man neat car! I'm sure glad you decided against cutting the front end, a restoration is the ONLY way I'd go with a known race history like that one does!

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