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Wow this thread is getting to be almost as much fun as the wingnut thread of years ago...

...there were some AG's with black grilles but don't let me stop this thread, I really like some of the old back in the day photos that are showing up

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Just found a photo of Joe Oldham & a '69 Hemi RR in Mopar Action where they reviewed his book.
Photo shows the R6 Hemi RR "press car", which would include the Air Grabber; no hood stripes, but the screens are clearly black.
This was a pretty early car, as magazine articles showing it came out early in the model year.
The photo I'm referring to shows Joe, the RR, a Bee, a Mach1, and a GTO.
While it's entirely likely that the drivetrain was "rubbed on", I wouldn't think they'd change the screens; although with that sid, reddish-orange screens would look terrible next to the darkish R6 Scorch Red.

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I'd say it's a "back in the day" photo, unless Joe made a deal with the Devil and hasn't aged in 41 years.

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Mopar Action, Oct 2007 issue, page 82; someone should be able to scan their issue.

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I still think it was an early production thing. Mine was Nov 7. It was Y2. Black looked OK but the red looked better. I changed over to red screens when I restored it. I had an April 69 RM21J that was B5 with red screens without stripes. It was on the Oct 1992 Mopar Action cover.

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That's the photo I was referring to, and I think it's obvious now that some early AG cars came with black screens.
Either that or some guys on Day 2 painted them, but that would be a lot of work to make them look as-delivered. That's simple enough to check, just look for orange under the black.

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Or the car is NOT Air Grabber equiped?

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For what it's worth, I have a red hood with black screens (no stripes) that I believe to be original. No trace of red on screens even where paint is chipped...

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The comments about my black screens are kind of funny. I salvaged the air grabber off of a wrecked car that had the original rivets holding it in place. I just saved the scoops with the screens for posterity. The screws never had a screw driver in them since the original assembly and the flat bars are original. They probably had an engineering change to the angle retainers after they started production in 69? I also had a yellow hood with black screens. Just curious but what is the SPD production date on your fender tag?

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That's the photo I was referring to, and I think it's obvious now that some early AG cars came with black screens.
Either that or some guys on Day 2 painted them, but that would be a lot of work to make them look as-delivered. That's simple enough to check, just look for orange under the black.

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Or the car is NOT Air Grabber equiped?

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All '69 plymouth hemi RR's had the air grabber, did they not? That was certainly the case with Hemi Superbees and the (optional for all non-hemis) Ramcharger set up.

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That's the photo I was referring to, and I think it's obvious now that some early AG cars came with black screens.
Either that or some guys on Day 2 painted them, but that would be a lot of work to make them look as-delivered. That's simple enough to check, just look for orange under the black.

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Or the car is NOT Air Grabber equiped?

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All '69 plymouth hemi RR's had the air grabber, did they not? That was certainly the case with Hemi Superbees and the (optional for all non-hemis) Ramcharger set up.

Dave

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Quoting facts takes all the fun out of threads like this.