Experience after major body/paint work
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02/27/10 01:36 AM
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I just got the shell of my car back after a full rotisserie resto and paint job. It's a really long story, but I'm just looking for other people's experiences after this sort of thing. I'm generally happy with the end result, except for a few minor but glaring issues. I watched VERY carefully over the entire course of the project, they did high quality work except for these few minor areas, really just one, which is mind-bogglingly poor. Other than this, I know how the rest of the work was done, and I'm satisfied with what's under the paint. The particular area in question I THINK they thought it was going to be hidden by another part, and when it wasn't fully covered, it was too late to go back without major additional work. (which they should have done anyway, but didn't)
I guess my main question is, when you got your car back, were you absolutely 100% satisfied, and if not, what sort of concerns did you have? I'm primarily concerned with shell restorations where you as the owner dug in and did the rest of the job once it got home.
I'll never go back to the shop the car came from, so at this point, I'm planning to put everything back together and treat whatever minor issues I discover as spot-repairs after the rest of the assembly is done.
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Re: Experience after major body/paint work
[Re: moparmojo]
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02/27/10 03:05 AM
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Duster, the car is already back, so it's all said and done with this shop... Mojo, I think your advice is right on the money. I don't have a pic to send at the moment, but it's really a minor area. Major poor quality, but minor area. It has to do with the hood hinge area, and I'm also having problems with the hinges and hood alignment, I was concerned that it was all interrelated, but I don't think it is.
It is really disgusting though, that you put all this time and effort into doing the best job you possibly can, and you see what kind of crap some people are content to put their names on.
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Re: Experience after major body/paint work
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02/27/10 12:35 PM
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if the hood hinges were not rebuilt thats probably the alignment issue, e-bodys usually show excessive wear especially challengers, you will need to address that, tough to live with new paint and a hood out of alignment.
Most of the time it is a alignement issue. It's easy to struggle with hood alignement on a challenger. GO TO RESTO RICKS site and he explains how to alinge those hinges, works every time even with your old hinges. The correct adjustment are exact opposite from what you would think.
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Re: Experience after major body/paint work
[Re: sixbbl69]
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you could always do the job yourself.you said you followed the whole thing, then why didn't you say something?
I did say something, about 10 times. I noticed it the very first time it revealed itself as a problem, and each time I went to see the car, it had not been taken care of, but the car was further assembled. I'd say fix it, they'd say ok, and then it wasn't fixed. I finally refused the car at the end, because everything else I knew about had been taken care of except this. They fixed it, and it looked good, but now that I have it back, I see how it's done and I'm not happy.
Beep and dirt, that's good advice. I am planning to drive it anyway, and the visible and most of the invisible paint is already better than new. If issues crop up in the future, I'm going to take care of them at that point. I guess I'll stick to the plan of spot repairs later for the things that bug me.
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Re: Experience after major body/paint work
[Re: forphorty]
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02/27/10 03:30 PM
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jeez, the curiousity is killing me. What's the problem and where's the problem? Pictures or a better description please!
,......not referenceing the OP, but having been involved in the Automotive painting business for close to 30 years now, the early years working in the standard collision type bodyshop,....I've seen it all, some customers can perform a microscopic analysis on a paint job that's absolutely insane, micro manageing every square inch,....plus when a car is completey devoid of trim/interior/driveline/glass the car often looks awkward in fresh paint, making even the most minute miniscule blem look horrendous, because it's the only thing to catch your eye,....basically the "Emperor has no clothes" syndrome
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Re: Experience after major body/paint work
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02/28/10 05:08 AM
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Unless I'm mistaken, from what I'm seeing it looks like rust bubbles in the hood hinge area of the inner fenders.
It looks like typical hood hinge area rust for an E-Body.
It's hard to see the last pic, too small and not clear enough.
If it is rust it should have been fixed, as in new metal welded in not bondo. It can have small patches welded in or you can replace the inner fenders.
As previously stated, worn hood hinges can definitely cause hood alignment problems, big time.
Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
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Re: Experience after major body/paint work
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02/28/10 07:03 AM
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Here's a comparison of before, during and after the repair. This didn't emerge as a problem until they painted over the glob of Bondo. Then, when I asked them to fix it. They did, but they must have just sanded the Bondo down flush, because it has cracked since the last picture was taken. I don't understand the underlying problem, there's no rust under there. There's a thick plate for attaching the hood that's welded to the sheet metal from behind, maybe it's that they didn't feel like doing what it took to remove this?
Since I also need hood alignment and hinge work, I'm planning to just take the car somewhere that I can trust after it's all done to re-do this repair.
I can see in one picture that the hood hinges are adjusted wrong...
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Re: Experience after major body/paint work
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02/28/10 09:16 AM
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Flaws are one thing and shoddy body work is another. They were avoiding this area for a reason. Maybe they were getting tight on money for your project? Maybe they just wanted it out of the shop? Either way globs of bondo are not the proper way to repair anything on a car being restored. I would go back to the shop and tell them you are posting their work on Moparts.com and they can make it right or you can add their shop name to your posts.
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