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FBO Ignition #620509
02/21/10 11:51 PM
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Anyone care to share their experiences? I really like the stock style set-up and they say it's more efficient and better in the power range.

My car is a 73 Duster that'll mostly be street driven, 360 stoked to 408(414 in reality) And likely running an A/C pump as well. gears are 3.55

Oh and I had in mind the kit with the recurved Dist. as well. Might this be overkill or could I used the stock 318 dist and not be disapointed?

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Re: FBO Ignition [Re: MonGoo$e] #620510
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My Dad runs FBO stuff on his Challenger with a 496 and it has performed flawlessly and starts right away every time. We like the stock look and simplicity of direct plug in parts.

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Re: FBO Ignition [Re: MoparDonny] #620511
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I have the complete kit on my 71 RR with a 383. I had a fairly new Mopar distributor (which I was running right out of the box)

He curved it with all the new stuff, and it cut my emissions by 50% !(on the numbers) and it runs better than it did before. It was all plug in and go, So far no probs after 3-4 years! I would buy another one for sure.

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Re: FBO Ignition [Re: MonGoo$e] #620512
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FBO stuff is good but what are your plans for your dist? You would need to shorten the slots/toss the heavy spring w the long loop and sub in another spring. If your on top of this disregard my thoughts. A MP "chrome" ECU might be adequate & is a proven/trouble free performer and would for sure be cheaper and I used an aftermarket HEI module (that was given to me but I mounted it under the dist to hide it as I dont want anybody to see a chebby part on my rides) w the big yellow Accell super coil and it was awesome.


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Re: FBO Ignition [Re: MonGoo$e] #620513
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Quote:

Anyone care to share their experiences? I really like the stock style set-up and they say it's more efficient and better in the power range.

My car is a 73 Duster that'll mostly be street driven, 360 stoked to 408(414 in reality) And likely running an A/C pump as well. gears are 3.55

Oh and I had in mind the kit with the recurved Dist. as well. Might this be overkill or could I used the stock 318 dist and not be disapointed?




I used to deal the stuff. It's pretty decent.

I only stopped selling it because I found dealing with customs a PITA.

As for the recurve, your stroked 414 is nowhere near a stock 318. Get the recurve. You won't regret it

Re: FBO Ignition [Re: RapidRobert] #620514
02/22/10 12:34 AM
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I run the FBO gear with my re-curved MP dizzy in my 383 Barracuda & I'm sure it runs better than the orange box. I peeled the stickers for a black coil, black ECU factory look. I found them great to deal with too, even from the other side of the world.

Re: FBO Ignition [Re: eightlitermopar] #620515
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I would buy another one for sure.




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Running a stock 69 440 HP. Don did right by me. He was great to talk with on the phone. No problems after 5 years.


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Re: FBO Ignition [Re: 69CoronetRT] #620516
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great answers guys, thanks a lot! I'll spring for the new dist as well.


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Re: FBO Ignition [Re: nz383man] #620517
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I run the FBO gear with my re-curved MP dizzy in my 383 Barracuda & I'm sure it runs better than the orange box. I peeled the stickers for a black coil, black ECU factory look. I found them great to deal with too, even from the other side of the world.




I did the same on my 440. Great customer service & tech help. No problems on my car for the last 4 seasons so far


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Re: FBO Ignition [Re: 1MYTGTX] #620518
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Great product. Been running the FBO ignition on my 71 440 for over 4 years with zero problems.

Re: FBO Ignition [Re: MonGoo$e] #620519
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my FBO crap didnt work.. failed with little run time.. instaalled the factory stuff and dist recurve and all is good.. FBO is waste of $$$$

Re: FBO Ignition [Re: Dakota_Don] #620520
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Been running Don's kit for more than 4 years now with his recurved dizzy and nary an issue.

I would definitely buy from him again and yes recurve the dizzy for even a stock 318. I guarantee you'll notice a difference.



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Re: FBO Ignition [Re: MonGoo$e] #620521
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I've had it on my 69 SBee 383 for 3 years now, 30,000 miles not a problem so far.

Re: FBO Ignition [Re: Dakota_Don] #620522
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my FBO crap didnt work.. failed with little run time.. instaalled the factory stuff and dist recurve and all is good.. FBO is waste of $$$$




Hmmm? I think that's a little harsh. Stuff breaks all the time. How many stories do we hear of orange and chrome boxes crapping out but many of us still use them with good results. My dad carries a Chrome box as a backup for his FBO (if he ever needed it) and I carry a spare orange box incase my chrome one goes. Life goes on!! Oh Blah Dee.


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Re: FBO Ignition [Re: MonGoo$e] #620523
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so... do you guys run ported or unported vacuum advance ?

Re: FBO Ignition [Re: sogtx] #620524
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Re: FBO Ignition [Re: RapidRobert] #620525
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I know Don likes to run Manifold, but I'm not sure why. It defies his own logic.

I curve the distributors also, and both he and I try to give you a curve that allows you to run the hihgest intial possible with your combo. Gives you way better throttle response off idle.

To then throw all the vac in on top of that, at idle, doesn't make sense to me.

Bottom line is, the purpose of vacuum advance is to increase fuel economy. Nothing else. If your motor makes less power, or runs crappy without it hooked up, or with it on ported, instead of manifold, there is something wrong with your set up.

Don doesn't like to set them up with vac advance at all if he can avoid it,(and there are plenty of combo's that vac advance is of NO benefit on, including my own car) so that is perhaps where things get different.

Re: FBO Ignition [Re: dave571] #620526
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I havent run the vacuum advance on Don's recommendations....after the dist recurve he did & his ign kit I dont need it


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Re: FBO Ignition [Re: 1MYTGTX] #620527
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Nothing he does is special, and he get s alot of money to do it. For the total investment of about $80 and a couple hours or an afternoon anyone can duplicate the work and "special" parts.


Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
Re: FBO Ignition [Re: MonGoo$e] #620528
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I think the FBO ignition probably works well but I've seen a few posts where some members had problems with reliability. Mine started to give problems the first 200 miles. I never called Don about the problems since I had bought it before my project was complete, so by the time installed it, the 1 year warranty had expired.
The first two ballast resisters lasted about 200 miles each. Then the FBO ECU failed so I went with a chrome MP ECU. Then 200 miles later, another ballast. Fixed that and the MP ECU failed. The only thing left from the FBO kit was the coil. I removed the FBO coil, installed another MP chrome ECU, Accel 8145 coil and a 1.2 ohm ballast. That was over 8,000 miles ago and still going strong.

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