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Re: Brand new MP 4" stroker crank out of round... [Re: HerboldRacing] #618613
02/22/10 08:39 PM
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Just measured my studs - the OD of the ARP studs I have are .4975

Tried to measure the ID of the holes in the cap - proving to be difficult to get an accurate measurement... seems to be around .503




ream the holes in the cap with a 17/32nd reamer .

NO you do NOT want to sand the thrust face of the bearing .

Re: Brand new MP 4" stroker crank out of round... [Re: JohnRR] #618614
02/22/10 11:11 PM
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Just measured my studs - the OD of the ARP studs I have are .4975

Tried to measure the ID of the holes in the cap - proving to be difficult to get an accurate measurement... seems to be around .503




ream the holes in the cap with a 17/32nd reamer .

NO you do NOT want to sand the thrust face of the bearing .




Really? Why not? I found the book and page where it says to sand the thrust face of the bearing down until I have a minimum of .002" end play. It is in the "How to Rebuild Small Block Mopar Engines" by Don Taylor and Larry Hofer on page 119 under the heading "Crankshaft End Play". I will paraphrase here:

"Measure end play, it must be between .002" and .007", and must not exceed .010" as an absolte max. Blah blah blah...if end play is less than .002" the crank must be removed and the thrust bearings thinned... Do that by laying a piece of 320-grit sandpaper on a flat surface and lapping away bearing material to bring end play within tolerance."

Actually I have an update that I will put in my next post...


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Re: Brand new MP 4" stroker crank out of round... [Re: HerboldRacing] #618615
02/22/10 11:15 PM
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And here is an update:

Just now for the heck of it, I pulled the #3 cap off, hammered the snout with a dead blow hammer so the crank is all the way back, slid the cap on and very very carefully made it go down into the seat evenly and pushed the cap as far forward as possible (my thinking was this lines up the bearing in the cap with the bearing in the block). Then I tightened the stud nuts in 5 pound increments starting at 20 ft*lb working my way up to 100 ft*lb, spinning the crank at each interval to check the tight spot. When it got to about 30 ft*lb I could start noticing the tight spot... then I actually made it all the way to 100 ft*lb and can still spin the crank with one hand... but the tight spot is still there... however I can spin the crank 360 degrees with one (strong) hand now.

I will try reaming the hole with a 17/32" reamer like Johnahah said first and see what that does. 17/32 actually would give me 0.531" which seems like a big change from my current 0.503"... maybe they make a 33/64" (0.515") reamer?? Or should I just go to 17/32"?

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Re: Brand new MP 4" stroker crank out of round... [Re: dusturbd340W5] #618616
02/23/10 12:19 AM
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I'd deal w the stud OD to cap hole ID 1st (find a bolt to mike it) & I think when you duplicate the oe bolt to cap clearance that you'll be set and the end play will be OK since you had 4 thou w (1) bearing half in place which is fine and I got a feeling when the above is resolved & the lower bearing/cap installed that your end play will be the same (or maybe .0005" less) which is still perfect.


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Re: Brand new MP 4" stroker crank out of round... [Re: RapidRobert] #618617
02/24/10 12:11 AM
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360 main cap oe bolts. went & checked: 1/2". the threads and the shoulder under the head are both 1/2" and the shank between the threads and the shoulder is 7/16" (checked w cheap plastic calipers, all I had when I was over there).


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