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OE GOLD TIE ROD SLEEVE & HARDWARE FINISHES??? #61643 05/22/08 01:36 PM 05/22/08 01:36 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 116 MAIne M MoparABE OP member
MoparABE OP member M Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 116 MAIne	Interested in finding out if anyone else out there has found any variences regarding tie rod sleeve finishes? I have seen some NOS that are bare metal and other NOS that are gray phosphate. What is considered assembly line correct finishes for the sleeves, clamps, bolts and nuts? Thanks in advance.

Re: OE GOLD TIE ROD SLEEVE & HARDWARE FINISHES??? [Re: MoparABE] #61644 05/22/08 01:59 PM 05/22/08 01:59 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,169 Richmond, VA R rayztoy super stock
rayztoy super stock R Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,169 Richmond, VA	We need "beepbeep" to answer this one. He knows almost everything.

Re: OE GOLD TIE ROD SLEEVE & HARDWARE FINISHES??? [Re: rayztoy] #61645 05/22/08 02:04 PM 05/22/08 02:04 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,039 INDIANA P Paul Jacobs super stock
Paul Jacobs super stock P Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,039 INDIANA	I had some assembly line complete assemblies and they were a very dark black (phosphate). They came from a factory and Tony D. or Ron Adair provided them to a customer of mine. I too have some NOS tie rod clamps in a Mopar bag dated 1971 or 1972 and they are natural. I have to believe phosphated was the norm.

Re: OE GOLD TIE ROD SLEEVE & HARDWARE FINISHES??? [Re: rayztoy] #61646 05/22/08 02:22 PM 05/22/08 02:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,252 Zzyzx Road beepbeep moparts member
beepbeep moparts member Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,252 Zzyzx Road	Quote: We need "beepbeep" to answer this one. He knows almost everything. Thanks, but not even close. Quote: I have to believe phosphated was the norm. I agree, there are variations here is a b&w on a new car at the factory, you can see the different finishes on the sleeves v. the clamps. With the parts being different steels, the attaching clamps when natural would have some bluing to it. 4444565-junksleeve.jpg (117 downloads) Last edited by beepbeep; 05/22/08 02:37 PM. Amazing how an unchallenged lie can become the absolute truth.

Re: OE GOLD TIE ROD SLEEVE & HARDWARE FINISHES??? [Re: MoparABE] #61647 05/22/08 02:25 PM 05/22/08 02:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,252 Zzyzx Road beepbeep moparts member
beepbeep moparts member Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,252 Zzyzx Road	And a dark finish, it actually looks like zinc. 4444572-TieRodSleeve.JPG (99 downloads) Amazing how an unchallenged lie can become the absolute truth.

Re: OE GOLD TIE ROD SLEEVE & HARDWARE FINISHES??? [Re: beepbeep] #61648 05/22/08 03:02 PM 05/22/08 03:02 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 628 Mass M Mike Mancini mopar
Mike Mancini mopar M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 628 Mass	Hi guys, On the last 70 Challenger I restored, my research of the known to be original tie rod sleeves revealed: Sleeves: grey phosphate Clamps: natural Bolts: grey phosphate Nuts: zinc w/ red thredlock insert Check out the pic on the nut I've attached. Anyone else find the same?? I'd be curious to know. Mike Mancini 4444625-tierodsleevenutOEM.jpg (114 downloads) Michael L. Mancini American Muscle Car Restorations, Inc. 65 Foliage Drive N. Kingstown, RI Premium Quality Restoration Services for Hi-Performance & Classic Automobiles. OE Specialists. Instrument Specialties, Inc www.instrument-specialties.com www.manciniresto.com www.performancecargraphics.com

Re: OE GOLD TIE ROD SLEEVE & HARDWARE FINISHES??? [Re: Mike Mancini] #61649 05/22/08 03:06 PM 05/22/08 03:06 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 628 Mass M Mike Mancini mopar
Mike Mancini mopar M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 628 Mass	Let me change that, according to my notes the nuts were more of a natural finish as opposed to bright silver zinc. Michael L. Mancini American Muscle Car Restorations, Inc. 65 Foliage Drive N. Kingstown, RI Premium Quality Restoration Services for Hi-Performance & Classic Automobiles. OE Specialists. Instrument Specialties, Inc www.instrument-specialties.com www.manciniresto.com www.performancecargraphics.com

Re: OE GOLD TIE ROD SLEEVE & HARDWARE FINISHES??? [Re: Mike Mancini] #61650 05/22/08 07:21 PM 05/22/08 07:21 PM
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RoadRunnerJD master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA	Quote: Hi guys, On the last 70 Challenger I restored, my research of the known to be original tie rod sleeves revealed: Sleeves: grey phosphate Clamps: natural Bolts: grey phosphate Nuts: zinc w/ red thredlock insert Check out the pic on the nut I've attached. Anyone else find the same?? I'd be curious to know. Mike Mancini I agree with Mike. That's what they are on my 69Roadrunner

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