Re: 68 B body number stampings
[Re: 70mopes]
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Typically you would find the last 8 digits of the VIN on top or the trans bellhousing
Only the auto's have it stamped there, manual tranny's are stamped on the pad as 69 and later
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Re: 68 B body number stampings
[Re: mopargem]
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Learned something new. I looked at the top on my 68 no numbers stamped up there. Casting date 11-23-67 build date 01-02-68. I'll look good again tomorrow maybe i just didn't notice it. I know 69 and up it's stamped on rail at oil pan.
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Re: 68 B body number stampings
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i don't beleive 68 had the vin stamped on the motor or tranny.69 and newer. 68 has the numbers stamped on upper core support and under trunk weatherstrip on drivers side. I beleive it will be the order number not the vin. It should match the order number on the fender tag.
Correct the VON is stamped on the body but the VIN is definitly stamped on the top of engine by the bellhousing in later 68 cars. My old 68 Charger R/T 440 was stamped there, kind of more to the drivers side around 1 or 2 oclock.
What do you mean by later? My Dec. R.R. engine and auto trans were stamped, my Feb R.R. parts car engine and auto trans were stamped and my May R.R. engine and man. trans were stamped.
All of these cars are St Louis by the way
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Re: 68 B body number stampings
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My 68 Charger was built after Jan 68, cant remember off top of my head, way to may cars ago. I may have the info somewhere, now I wish I kept better records of past cars like data tags, sheets, engine numbers and all. At the time I had heard that early 68 cars didnt have the VIN stamped on drivetrain. Dont know at what point they started doing this, plant, or if its even true that early cars werent stamped, but by evidence of Dougs car, I would say some early cars arnt stamped.
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Re: 68 B body number stampings
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What do you mean by later? My Dec. R.R. engine and auto trans were stamped, my Feb R.R. parts car engine and auto trans were stamped and my May R.R. engine and man. trans were stamped.
All of these cars are St Louis by the way
The law required VIN stampings on the engine and trans begining 1/1/68 but the managment was trying to get the program working & in place ahead of schedule to be in compliance... So most Dec cars probably are stamped but it could vary from day shift to night shift or if the guy that was trained to stamp VINs called in sick his replacement might miss a few.. Fact is that really happened through out the year...
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Re: 68 B body number stampings
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What do you mean by later? My Dec. R.R. engine and auto trans were stamped, my Feb R.R. parts car engine and auto trans were stamped and my May R.R. engine and man. trans were stamped.
All of these cars are St Louis by the way
The law required VIN stampings on the engine and trans begining 1/1/68 but the managment was trying to get the program working & in place ahead of schedule to be in compliance... So most Dec cars probably are stamped but it could vary from day shift to night shift or if the guy that was trained to stamp VINs called in sick his replacement might miss a few.. Fact is that really happened through out the year...
OK, I knew it came about in 68 but didn't know when it was required by.
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Re: 68 B body number stampings
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Just for clarity, the VON (vehicle order number) which is stamped into the rad support and quarter trunk rail on '68 B bodies isn't the same as the sequence number. Most times when people refer to "sequence number" they mean sequencial VIN which is the 6 digit number at the end of the VIN, although Lynch Rd. fender tags also have a "gate sequence" number at the top which seems to mean very little to anybody.
As stated earlier, only the fender tag or broadcast sheet ties the VIN# to the VON#
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Re: 68 B body number stampings
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1968 VON# = Stamped into the Fender tag, uppers drivers quarter under trunk weather stripping, top of drivers radiator core support. Printed on the Broadcast Sheet Full VIN# = Stamped into the dash VIN Tag, printed on the Broadcast Sheet, and possibly on other factory or dealer paperwork VIN Sequence Number (last 6 digits of the VIN#) stamped into the engine and transmission. In 1968 the engine stamping was typically stamped on the top of the bell housing flange as shown in pics above, I have heard reports of 68's with the number stamped onto the raised pad on the lower passenger side just above the oil pan rail but have never seen one myself. Transmission stampings were as shown on automatics,just behind the engine stamping on the upper bell housing, 4 speeds were stamped into the raised pad on the passenger side (pic attached). Concerning those who claim to have original cars that were never stamped, yes it's possible, but I have never seen any original examples, if any of you have pics of those areas left blank by the factory please e-mail them to me if you don't mind, along with any other replated photos of the engine or trans numbers. 
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Re: 68 B body number stampings
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checked mine today. Jan 02 68 build date. No vin stamped on back of motor or bell houseing. Engine cast date 11-23-67
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Re: 68 B body number stampings
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My 1968 Sport Satellite is a Lynch Road car. The engine is stamped on the bell, but they only got the last 3 digits of the sequence number deep enough to read.
Just to be clear, the fender tag in 1968 does not have the VIN on it, only the VON, and the body stampings are only the VON. The only thing that ties the VON to the VIN is the broadcast sheet.
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