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A Little Valiant progress *BOTH MINI TUBS ALMOST DONE* #605660
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So we got the Valiant home and and started taking it apart and found it needed front floor pans .

Well out with the old ones and just getting started getting ready for some new ones. I have been getting rid of some old parts we will no longer use and have traded and bought some used parts and pieces here and there.


We will be starting to mini tub it here shortly.Have a dana on the way to put under it.Picked up some 440-1s some time back that we will be putting to good use.





Complete disk brake front end we picked up on the way back from Indy.Getting completely rebuilt.







Can't wait to see how these look under the car



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Re: A Little Valiant progress [Re: blown572dart] #605661
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Cool stuff there. What's the estimated completion date? If it has the same quality put into it that the Dart has, it will be a real sweet ride!

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Good to see you getting it started buddy....are you still planning on going with a stick or auto....?????

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Yes it will be a 4speed waiting on the hump to get here.

I hope this goes quickly

We plan on using a passon with overdrive so that 4.56 gear don't hurt too much

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Nice batch of parts you got so far I just hope you don't have my problem

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Jimmy I sent you an email. Hopefully it works.


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Jimmy I sent you an email. Hopefully it works.





Dang Al as much as it pains me to say this: Man you got a nice "Rear End"

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Jimmy I sent you an email. Hopefully it works.





Dang Al as much as it pains me to say this: Man you got a nice "Rear End"

Rickster





Nice rear

I got the email Al





Just a little more work

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A little more work

Floor and tunnel are ready to be welded in place. Rear is out and doing a bit of cleaning to get the tubs ready for cutting. All I can smell is undercoating .








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Some mini tub progress






Have 1 side close to being ready to weld back together and the other will get done this weekend along with the floorpan.

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Lookin good! I'm sure it'll be an awesome car when finished...

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Looks good Jim! I feel your pain trying to get that undercoating off. Blew black stuff out of my nose for a week after!!!

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Is that seam sealer paintable? What brand is it?

Thanks, Justin

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What size tire is that?

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What size are the rear tires?


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What are those goofy handles above the Cal-trac's for?

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What are those goofy handles above the Cal-trac's for?




Lightning rod shifter. shifts an auto trans (manual valve body 727 for example) like a Lenco

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Is that seam sealer paintable?





It's bondo to cover my fugly welding skills or lack of







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What size tire is that?




Tires are 28 x 12.5 Mickey Thompsons

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Re: A Little Valiant progress **MINI TUB ALMOST DONE** [Re: blown572dart] #605680
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Is that seam sealer paintable?





It's bondo to cover my fugly welding skills or lack of






I understand, I'm very good with a grinder .

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Looking Good. Love the wheels!

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Jimmy the BONDO Master...

lookin good there Jim..

uh huh!! I found some for you..

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Jimmy the BONDO Master...

lookin good there Jim..

uh huh!! I found some for you..



Next time, use seam sealer instead of bondo!




What I mostly wanted to make it smooth like it never happened. seam sealer I don't think will look the same But I am just a dunb AZZ Electrician so could be totaly wrong



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lookin good there Jim..

uh huh!! I found some for you..



Next time, use seam sealer instead of bondo!




What I mostly wanted to make it smooth like it never happened.




That's what I'm shooting for. My filler pieces are butt welded but it will have seam sealer around the base of the wheel well like it came from the factory.

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That's what I'm shooting for. My filler pieces are butt welded but it will have seam sealer around the base of the wheel well like it came from the factory.





I just don't want it noticeable don't matter to me if it looks factory Surely the Dana and the fuel cell in the trunk will give it away.

Really am thinking about removing the spare tire area and making it all flat but who knows yet.

It sure would make putting the fuel cell easier and clean it up.

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Mine's gonna have one to.

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Really am thinking about removing the spare tire area and making it all flat but who knows yet...
It sure would make putting the fuel cell easier and clean it up.



The void makes a nice 'weather-guard' for the fuel pump. JMHO

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Really am thinking about removing the spare tire area and making it all flat but who knows yet.

It sure would make putting the fuel cell easier and clean it up.




That is what I did with my Cuda. The spare tire well was so rotten it was a no brainer for me.

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Deja Vu man !
I also have seam sealer for the bottom......I was wondering if sandable primer in coats would fill that gap over the top of the wheel well.......it is only .032 or so deep.
I got some " splatter " paint that looks very trunk floor like......that is what I will be squirting behind the back seat to hide my shoddy workmanship.

I haven't decided if the back seat will go back in or not yet......I got the cage kit to keep it , but since I don't plan on riding back there , it is low on the priority list.
Nice work so far.
Keep the updates coming.

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Re: A Little Valiant progress **MINI TUB ALMOST DONE** [Re: tubtar] #605693
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The pic HardcoreB has above is my Dart Sport. I also used the spatter paint to hide it all. Came out pretty good.

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The pic HardcoreB has above is my Dart Sport. I also used the spatter paint to hide it all. Came out pretty good.





I agree it looks great

Wonder how bed liner would look even though it would probably be just as easy to use trunk splatter.

I bought some rust bullet to spray it all down first,even picked up there black shell. The one side has the rust bullet on the floor pan.

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I thought about that too. It may be more durable around gas and more scratch resistant.

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In regards to filling the patch area, I run a restoration shop and the way we do it is when running the factory inner wheel tube is to cut a piece of sheet metal 1 inch wider than the void left and then flange 1/2 inch on each side of the patch downward.Then we puntch holes every 3 inches in the flanged areas and plug weld each side to the old parts when done you end up with a smooth repair just takes a light skim of mud.Or one my dart I wasn`t worried about factory looks I cut the factory wheel tub 2 inches inside the center seam and then made the inside portion of my tub with sheetmetal formed to fit the shape of the factory outer wheel house i also roll beads for strength, you end up with a 90 degree edge were it turns down towards the rail so theres more tire room.The only problem is moving the trunk spring mounts in were the outher way you can retain the factory mount.On my 1969 dart with fabed inner half of tub I was able to fit 315 60 15 tires with room to spare.Thats the ways we have found work well.

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I seam sealed the top,frt and inside .The back that you see when you open the trunk I bondo smooth.fro the inside the car I used rustoleum textured paint and inside the wheel well was dupli truck bed spray.I think it looks good I will try to get pics.

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I bet you could get a full chassis from that Mike Roth guy and just stick the body on it..I'm pretty sure he had one for sale..
Cheap too..

There.. Problems all solved..


Chris..

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Looking good! I mini tubed mine and then decided to go all the way. I used the stock stuff and some sheet stock to make my own. Looks kind of factory.

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I bet you could get a full chassis from that Mike Roth guy and just stick the body on it..I'm pretty sure he had one for sale..
Cheap too..

There.. Problems all solved..


Chris..



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No this one will be a daily driver with a little kick to it.







how about my rear


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Looking good! I mini tubed mine and then decided to go all the way. I used the stock stuff and some sheet stock to make my own. Looks kind of factory.




One of the cleanest I've ever seen....love the stock look....

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The pic HardcoreB has above is my Dart Sport. I also used the spatter paint to hide it all. Came out pretty good.




Can you get that in a spray can???

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No this one will be a daily driver with a little kick to it.







how about my rear




Will there be a roll cage in this streetcar?Even tho u mention streetcar i no it will be blasted down the 1/4 at one time or another, what kind of times are expected? COOL BUILD

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any thing new?








Nope not yet.

Dart has all my attention




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The pic HardcoreB has above is my Dart Sport. I also used the spatter paint to hide it all. Came out pretty good.




Can you get that in a spray can???




I bought splatter paint in a rattle can.
So yes , you can buy it.
But even after extended periods of shaking , it came out in chunks.
So no , it didn't work for me.
I was looking forward to that " stock trunk floor " look too.

Re: A Little Valiant progress **MINI TUB ALMOST DONE** [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #605709
04/24/10 09:00 AM
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Can you get that in a spray can???




Yes. I bought it at Oreileys. I went through about 4 cans. takes a while to dry but looks pretty nice when done.

Re: A Little Valiant progress **MINI TUB ALMOST DONE** [Re: Dartin] #605710
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Those levers are never going to fit in that hole!! Looks real nice!





BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154
Re: A Little Valiant progress **MINI TUB ALMOST DONE** [Re: bigtimeauto] #605711
08/18/10 11:46 AM
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Okay so I have had all the stuff sitting around for the valiant. Now I sure as hell never thought I would be the one welding all this stuff but with a little help from some freinds I am happy with the progress. Plus it's keeping me busy after work.











Still have to finish up welding the frame connectors,cleaning the underside,taking out the old spare tire area and some other things as you can see.


Re: A Little Valiant progress **MINI TUB ALMOST DONE** [Re: blown572dart] #605712
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Looking good Love the combo brake/clutch j/k Do you have the pedal assembly....??????


Rickster

Re: A Little Valiant progress **MINI TUB ALMOST DONE** [Re: rickstershemi] #605713
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Looking good Love the combo brake/clutch j/k Do you have the pedal assembly....??????


Rickster





yes I do

Re: A Little Valiant progress **MINI TUB ALMOST DONE** [Re: blown572dart] #605714
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not bad for an old guy

Re: A Little Valiant progress **MINI TUB ALMOST DONE** [Re: blown572dart] #605715
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Man that`s a lot work you`re taking on and it`s lookin damn good.............but you`re used to that.


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
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