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Re: Oil Accumulator users right here
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Let me get this straight, without pressure switched valves the only thing controlling when the oil flows from the accumulator is when the equilibrium or pressure in the engine drops below the pre set (added) pressure acting on the piston correct? So seems you would want this, atleast my self to start working around 40 psi...But then at idle this thing would be discharging, so maybe ideally you would want it say 5 psi below idle oil pressure ta avoid Reset Windup..if your familiar with this instrumentation term.. These valves sure are cheap, here is a Viton seal for harsh fluids etc.. $100 cheaper than the electric valves provided by Canton, and Moroso http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...RK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
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Re: Oil Accumulator users right here
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The accumilator has a o-ringed piston inside that is pushed back up against air that you add at the other end, like 10psi. When you your engine will normally need it is possibly a wheel stand or at shut down when oil may be drawn away from the oil pick up in the pan. At those times the accumilator will be full at max oil pressure because of the high rpm's. If needed the accumilator will keep the oil flowing until the oil pump picks up oil again. If something breaks , it will continue flow for maybe 30 seconds. I bought a low pressure warning light for mine , yet to put it on, but it would catch your eye faster than a gage.  I think thats the valve I bought, can't look at it as I sent it to michigan for the 70 cuda. Where did you get need #12 line from, the accumilator comes out 1/2" pipe thread. I can see no reason to run a larger line for a short distance. 
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Re: Oil Accumulator users right here
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the electric valve I have if it has power to it it is very hard to push fuild through it back into the accumulator if you turn it off it flows easy that is the reason for the pressure switch so it turns off the valve to refill the accusump when pressure in engine is up.
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Re: Oil Accumulator users right here
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Instructions on Cantons web site...it calls for minimal of -10 for 2 & 3 quart models and larger for some applications. IDK... You think it plumbing into a filter, or remote oil cooler setup, it might need the larger volume as some of this might end up back in the pan etc.. It talks about the diff on adapters on Cantons web site, and says its suppose to be a Oil Input sandwich adapter, rather than use a oil cooler adapter. 
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Re: Oil Accumulator users right here
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I have the Canton on the 67 barracuda, Moroso on the 70, both look identical. When I got it I read all the info but still didn't like the restriction of going thru a filter when oil was needed NOW!
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Re: Oil Accumulator users right here
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I have the Canton on the 67 barracuda, Moroso on the 70, both look identical. When I got it I read all the info but still didn't like the restriction of going thru a filter when oil was needed NOW!
NOW ? it's the same route all the oil took.How slow do you think 60 lb of pressure moves in a small passageway
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Plumb it into the out> port on the remote filter housing or the top plug fitting on the Indy cover plate.The larger 1/4 fitting at the back of the block will flow a massive amont of oil.Put a line into a can and spin the pump,you will be surprised.We have seen unique set-ups where it is plumbed internally at the main galley feeding the engine behind the timmimg cover and balkhead fitted at the feul pump cover plate and connected to the accusump(mostly on stock car racing engines)It's not worth the effort if you want my opinion.Fiter,pump cover or rear engine is the simplest. 
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Re: Oil Accumulator users right here
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also spoke with Chris and he explanded the electric valve is the same the reason to add the pressure switch in the EPC kit is it turns off the valve so it can refill rapitly
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