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R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times #594950
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Does anybody have any actually drag times per R/T vs SRT Challengers?

Been thinking about buying one and dont know if the extra 10 grand is worth it for the SRT..

I work for Dodge and have and work on both..I have had a SRT completely stripped to nothing and built a acouple 6.1 hemis using Arrington heads,cam,etc..so I know them well..I just need the 1/4 mile times..


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Re: R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times [Re: FASTFISH420] #594951
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Doesn't anybody own one of these..we cant keep them on the lot..LOL


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Re: R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times [Re: FASTFISH420] #594952
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From what I hear the R/T is just as fast in the 1/4 mile as the SRT if not a little quicker.
The stick shift cars have wheel hop issues so if your wanting to do a lot of racing the auto would be best.
Lots of info here.
http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/f100/

Re: R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times [Re: FASTFISH420] #594953
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My 2009 6-speed SRT Challenger that is completely stock except for a K&N drop in air filter, and a 180 thermostat ran 13.2 @ 107. The car has violent wheel hop, so I was leaving very easy with it. 2.21 was the best 60 foot dogging it off the line.

Re: R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times [Re: mrrandyj] #594954
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With a typical driver in an Auto, the R/T is an honest high 13 sec car at ~102 mph. The SRT low 13's at ~108 mph. This is a typical driver, both with 2+ 60 ft. times, street tires, 100% stock. A guy with a lot of seat time can get them around 1.8's and the R/T will be a mid 13 to the SRT high 12's.

I have never driver a Challenger R/T, (have the SRT), so can't say. Can say when I bought my SRT Charger, I did drive a Charger R/T (albeit without the new 5.7), and there was just no comparison. Handling, brakes, power, etc. I got a great deal on my SRT, so the difference was around 8k, and at there there was just no question what to do.

If you are not in a rush...wait a year for the 6.4 and get a SRT



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Re: R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times [Re: FASTFISH420] #594955
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I have had a handfull of these new challengers. The 2 R/T auto trans cars ran way different. The red one went 13.45 at 103. The white one only ran 13.65 at 102mph. I won $$ with both. At MMW in St. Louis in the new hemi class, $200 with the red one and $1500 with the white one. The Black 6 speed R/T went 13.30 at 105 mph. The SRT 6 speed has gone 13.15 at 108 mph. The auto trans cars are pretty consistent but the manuals are all over. You have to get the clutch and gas just right or you will either bog and dog or spin and wheel hop. The best 60ft on both manual R/T and SRT was 2.00. The R/T was a perfect pass. the SRT with the 2.00 60 ft. the shifter jammed on 1-2 shift??? The 13.15 pass was only a 2.05 60ft. Definetly 13.00s are posible out of the SRT. If you don't disable traction control, the 6 speed cars, R/T and SRT are dogs, like in the 14s. But the autos trans cars will spin bad if you do disable the traction control. All of these times are with 100% showroom stock cars with air cleaner, factory tires, and no programers.

Is the SRT worth $15000 more? I would say no. I had alot of fun in the 2000 miles I drove the 6 speed R/T. I only upgraded the six speed R/T to a SRT because they offered me $30000 trade in on a year old car with 2000 miles of my abuse that I paid $30000 for. The SRT doesn't feel hardly any more powerful on the street than the R/T but the SRT does corner noticably better and the brakes are 2nd to none. The seats are way nicer in the SRT. All the R/Ts I had were/are strippers with cloth seats and the SRTs are all leather.

Re: R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times [Re: FASTFISH420] #594956
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i ran 13.62 @ 104.00 mph 2.77 60' on my first pass with my r/t 6 speed 2000 miles bone stock, my car was 4292# with me in it on englishtowns scale. i would not buy the srt spend the extra money on up grades for the r/t.

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Lots of good info here

I have driven them all..on the street the R/T feels alittle stronger to me bone stock and the R/T sounds better also...the SRT's the brakes and handling is fantastic and can compare to the R/T..I believe the SRT is alittle heavier also..

The SRT's I have modded all run like a bear,but had extensive engine work also.. one a Jeep and the other a Challenger I just finished..

I just prepped a Yellow Classic yesterday with a 6-speed and it was a blast to drive and it got alot of attention..

Has anybody raced any with a good drag radial??


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Re: R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times [Re: FASTFISH420] #594958
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I'm afraid to race my 6 speed r/t due to the rearend? Anyone had troubles with the rear-end noise or breaking...mine is quiet and want it to stay that way..LOL


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My 6 spd R/T was quiet when new and pretty noisy at 2000 miles. Srarted making noise after 2nd trip to dragstrip.

Re: R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times [Re: Hurst390] #594960
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I'm afraid to race my 6 speed r/t due to the rearend? Anyone had troubles with the rear-end noise or breaking...mine is quiet and want it to stay that way..LOL




The Challengers and all 2010 SRT's have upgraded axles to combat the gernading the previous units were having. It's a common swap for the LX guys these days to buy a complete rear from a Challenger for the Part Dept. and put into an older LX. Also get a limited slip rear. Unless you are heavily modded, you will not have any issues with the rear on drag radials.


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Re: R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times [Re: FASTFISH420] #594961
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The SRT's I have modded all run like a bear,but had extensive engine work also.. one a Jeep and the other a Challenger I just finished..





My SRT now has an UD Pulley, CNC Ported TB / Heads / Intake, Cam, Convertor, After market Cold Air Intake, Hi flow cats and Catback, all tied into a custom tune on the Diablo. Result: a 12.13 @ 117.8 mph with a horrible 2.18 60 ft. Based a race weight of around 4450, doing the math isn't hard to see there is some major power at the wheels.

I had the Cam ground on a 115LSA so it idles almost like stock...could almost pass for stock and blame the exhaust for the added tone. Still gets between 23-24 mpg on the hwy and could easily be daily driven as neither the cam or the convertor are wild - just a slight upgrade. If I'm not planning on beating the car on the hwy, can fill up with 89 Oct and computer pulls no timing.

Had I known how good these new Hemi's were, I would have skipped the stroked 440 for the Satellite and build a stroked 6.1.

Mopar did a great job on these motors.

The only issue I have with them the way they come from the factory is there is WAY too much computer control over things. The 1st thing I'd buy if I had a new one is a Diablo and get rid of most of that.


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Re: R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times [Re: mrrandyj] #594962
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My 2009 6-speed SRT Challenger that is completely stock except for a K&N drop in air filter, and a 180 thermostat ran 13.2 @ 107. The car has violent wheel hop, so I was leaving very easy with it. 2.21 was the best 60 foot dogging it off the line.




Hey mrrandyj, Can you post a few pictures of your Challenger??

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I'm afraid to race my 6 speed r/t due to the rearend? Anyone had troubles with the rear-end noise or breaking...mine is quiet and want it to stay that way..LOL




A friend of mine has a 6spd SRT slightly modded, running NOS and slicks. Currently running low 12's. No diff trouble (yet).

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I actually street raced and SRT-8 Challenger when I was driving to the track to race my 63. It had different exh but thats all I could tell. We went from a redlite but I spun bad with 30 lbs in my tires. He put a lenth on me right away but as I eased into it I caught him at the top of first and then put about 2 car lenths on him in second. I lifted then as did he because we knew who was faster and we were doing about 80 to 90 mph. But its not like I blew his doors off as I figured it was a solid mid 12 car. Sounded real good. Ron

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Re: R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times [Re: FASTFISH420] #594965
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I've spoken to folks with R/Ts just like mine (6 speed and the track pack option) who say they've run 13.13 @ 107 with the only mod being a K&N cold air kit. I have not witnessed it myself but I wouldn't doubt that it's possible in good air.

One thing that (besides the price) dissuaded me from the SRT8 was the lack of warranty. The dealer told me the power train warranty on the SRT8 did not exist.

Another consideration, the R/T has 376 HP. K & N claims to provide an additional 21 HP with their cold air kit. I don't know how true that is but for arguments sake, pretend it is. So that gives you 397 HP for the R/T. According to what I've read, the R/T is about 100 pounds lighter than the SRT. So theoretically, at roughly 400 HP and 100lbs lighter, the R/T starts to approach the SRT in power to weight.

I'm not knocking the SRT8s. I would love one too. I'm just saying the R/T has a decent bang for the buck.

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Hey mrrandyj, Can you post a few pictures of your Challenger??






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Re: R/T Challenger vs SRT..1/4 times [Re: Mills] #594968
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I love the Challenger, but IMO get the Mustang ,faster, cheaper.

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