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porting -1,s for street #590710
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i have a 496 rb with iron -1 heads.9-1 comp.would it be worth while to have these fully ported for the street?its not really a daily driver but when i do drive it i like to drive it all day and it does see the strip when ever i can make it.

Re: porting -1,s for street [Re: bonefish] #590711
01/22/10 12:02 PM
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Bowl port,blend and gasket match is your best money spent.Leave as much support at the valve guide as possible. No need for full porting.

Re: porting -1,s for street [Re: B G Racing] #590712
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Bowl port,blend and gasket match is your best money spent.Leave as much support at the valve guide as possible. No need for full porting.




A street car needs good port velocity to make good mid range torque and power, keeping the port as small and eff as possible would be key here..Bigger isnt always better, in a race car were low gears, loose converters were they leave the line at 5K, and shift at 6800+.

Even on that stroker engine, with the correct cam, that engine will need to shift at 6600+ minimal...And closer to 7K. Thats were these heads work well at..
I ran these heads on the street, but I ran a bit more compression also..
I first ran in with a 509 Hyd cam, then later switched to a MP 590 before going to a roller...So I have a little experience with these on the street....
Car was a heavy 69 Coronet with a 493..It ran 7.20's with the MP 509 in the 8th mile on pump gas, and 3.55 28x10.5 tire gears. 9" T/A converter.


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Re: porting -1,s for street [Re: Bob_Coomer] #590713
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That is pretty mild (9:1) compression even at those cubes so your return in terms of HP/$ spent is going to be a good bit lower than if your cr was 1.5-2 points higher. As the Big Guy (BG) said along with a good VJ (which can help speed flow without adding CC's to the port) would be your best bet. The -1 works very well and has plenty of flow and cross section up top, so your best bet is trying to bring the 'Sweet spot' in a little sooner and hang on to it a little longer, with the right bowl, port match and Valve job you can get bot....without really any downside....and without the $$$ of a full blown port job.

The work described will help it act like it's got a little more aggressive ramp in the cam and if it's done right it should make it noticeably snappier throughout the powerband.


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Re: porting -1,s for street [Re: Streetwize] #590714
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I agree with the others here that the as cast -1's have plenty of CS for what you're doing and a high quality competition valve job and some transition bowl blending would show the best results.

Re: porting -1,s for street [Re: Hemiroid] #590715
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VJ and chamber work!


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Re: porting -1,s for street [Re: Brian Hafliger] #590716
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when i get ready to freshen this motor i was thinking of going up a point or 2 in comp.do you think that would utilize these heads better?i wish i could remember what cam i have,its got a pretty loose 10 in conv. in it.i really dont think my entire combo is right on, so ill be looking at every thing. its a 69 b-body,4,129 lbs,best of 7.50 in the 1/8.this motor just seems sluggish,no snap.

Re: porting -1,s for street [Re: bonefish] #590717
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when i get ready to freshen this motor i was thinking of going up a point or 2 in comp.do you think that would utilize these heads better?i wish i could remember what cam i have,its got a pretty loose 10 in conv. in it.i really dont think my entire combo is right on, so ill be looking at every thing. its a 69 b-body,4,129 lbs,best of 7.50 in the 1/8.this motor just seems sluggish,no snap.




That's alot of weight!! That much weight will smooth any "snap" the engine might have.
One thing about the -1's is the port speed is very very slow!!
Speed it up, use a good fast opening ramp on the intake and slow opening ramp on the ex. and that will improve the port speed in the intake tract.
Compression (assuming you use the right fuel octane)will help a bunch as well.


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