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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: gtsuperbee]
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02/09/14 08:08 PM
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I have an opportunity to possibly get a v-code 4-sp black on black '70 bee and the only reason I'm iffy about it is because of the lack of quarters.
When I die I want to go like my Grandfather did, quietly in his sleep. Not screaming like the passengers in his car.
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: demon]
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02/13/14 01:23 PM
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So let's start calling AMD guys!
My 70 Bee has been sitting and waiting for AMD to make 1/4's.
Think of all the trunkfloors, floors, door skins etc they would sell as well when guys order up new 1/4's for their 70 Coronets.
So many cars are sitting because the owners are reluctant to buy anything for them when the most needed part is not available. And I mean THE most needed part.
Come on AMD! 70 Coronets owners are begging you to make these panels.
Talked with AMD about these. They don't see how they will be able to recoup the cost of tooling. They need to sell at least 500 pairs to make it worth the investment.
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
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02/17/14 05:00 PM
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Stefan, Thanks for inquiring about this to AMD... 500 pairs? Just to recover tooling costs?  Wow! On their website the 68-69 Coronet quarter panels sells for $600. Given their size I think that's very reasonable... I'd pay that for a 70 in a hearbeat! So let's call it $1200 for a pair... 1200 x 500 = $600K.. it's that much to tool these? Man! maybe this is just me but...it seems like the 70 is roughly 80% covered by the 68-69? The differences are the reverse C Stamping near the door, and the marker light. The biggest difference is where it meets the tailpanel.... Do they have to completely re-invent the tooling from scratch to do this? OUCH!!!! Are they expecting to sell 500 pairs of the 70 roadrunner quarter panels?
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: OLD318]
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02/17/14 05:32 PM
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Stefan,
Thanks for inquiring about this to AMD...
500 pairs?
So let's call it $1200 for a pair...
1200 x 500 = $600K.. it's that much to tool these?
The dies required alone will be in the $300K+ range to produce a left/right full set of qtrs, the material costs for the skins will be in the $75K range for a minimum run of 500 sets, not to mention the possible retooling costs to correct issues at the line, tooling proofs, etc, etc, that eats up capital fast, then theirs E coat costs, labour, shipping charges to/from the factory, packaging, taxes, tariffs, etc, inventory taxes, and all the assorted costs from building costs, operation costs, Insurance costs, etc, etc, etc, etc, the lists of costs most forget that it takes to just stay in business, nevermind expanding your product offerings/inventory, plus product demand and how long the estimated investment return will be, are deciding factors, plus a host of other factors that can vary from day to day operations, market shares/values, banking conditions, right down to personal decisions by the Chief in charge...
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: elitecustombody]
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02/17/14 11:22 PM
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500K! Obviously, I'm no tooling/Die/sheet metal expert... But it just doesn't seem right! 80% of the panel is already built and tooled Change the double C impression next to the door to a single reverse C and you're identical all the way back to the marker light! That's about the last foot/ 18 inches of the panel! Change the marker light and then the tail panel area to scuplt to the 70 Quarter extension and rear bumper and your're done! Again not an expert by any means... But why do they have to completely pay to reinvent the 80% that already exists? The 68-69 uses the same wheel well, trunk extensions and rear windshield cowl... They all use the same door! Heck even the same vinyl top moulding on the sail panel and the same Wheel lip moulding fits... (Same rear wheelhouse) etc. I just don't get it! They spent all that money on the 68/69 and NONE of it is useable on the 70? Nothing transfers cost wise? Can my luck be any worse! 
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: OLD318]
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02/19/14 03:18 AM
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500K!
Obviously, I'm no tooling/Die/sheet metal expert...
But it just doesn't seem right!
80% of the panel is already built and tooled
Change the double C impression next to the door
to a single reverse C and you're identical all the way back to
the marker light! That's about the last foot/ 18 inches
of the panel!
Change the marker light and then the tail panel area
to scuplt to the 70 Quarter extension and rear bumper
and your're done!
Again not an expert by any means...
But why do they have to completely pay to
reinvent the 80% that already exists?
The 68-69 uses the same wheel well, trunk extensions and
rear windshield cowl... They all use the same door!
Heck even the same vinyl top moulding on the sail panel
and the same Wheel lip moulding fits... (Same rear wheelhouse) etc.
I just don't get it!
They spent all that money on the 68/69 and NONE of it is
useable on the 70?
Nothing transfers cost wise?
Can my luck be any worse!
Easy! Don't shoot the messenger! Here is AMD contact info. Call, fax, write :
Auto Metal Direct
940 Sherwin Parkway, Ste 180
Buford, GA 30518
Toll-Free: (866) 591-8309
Local: (770) 967-0909
Fax: (770) 692-6360
Or send them email :http://www.autometaldirect.com/contact_us.php
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Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
[Re: elitecustombody]
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09/26/19 11:20 PM
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500K! Obviously, I'm no tooling/Die/sheet metal expert... But it just doesn't seem right! 80% of the panel is already built and tooled Change the double C impression next to the door to a single reverse C and you're identical all the way back to the marker light! That's about the last foot/ 18 inches of the panel! Change the marker light and then the tail panel area to scuplt to the 70 Quarter extension and rear bumper and your're done! Again not an expert by any means... But why do they have to completely pay to reinvent the 80% that already exists? The 68-69 uses the same wheel well, trunk extensions and rear windshield cowl... They all use the same door! Heck even the same vinyl top moulding on the sail panel and the same Wheel lip moulding fits... (Same rear wheelhouse) etc. I just don't get it! They spent all that money on the 68/69 and NONE of it is useable on the 70? Nothing transfers cost wise? Can my luck be any worse! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bawling.gif" alt="" /> Easy! Don't shoot the messenger! Here is AMD contact info. Call, fax, write : Auto Metal Direct 940 Sherwin Parkway, Ste 180 Buford, GA 30518 Toll-Free: (866) 591-8309 Local: (770) 967-0909 Fax: (770) 692-6360 Or send them email :http://www.autometaldirect.com/contact_us.php well, we still have no 70 Coronet quarter panels. I think its time to contact AMD again, and show them that we want these panels!
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