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Re: A66
[Re: Dartman440]
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04/13/10 06:39 PM
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I am going to look at a A66 340 Auto car later today. B5 Blue. It has been repainted once. I will list all the data tonight.
 
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Re: A66
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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04/17/10 01:42 PM
04/17/10 01:42 PM
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Wow lots of good information in this thread. Since we're on the subject of A66 Challengers I thought I'd ask if anybody knows where this A66 Challenger is? I believe it was originally B5. 340, auto. The T/A antenna should help identify it. Sold in the L.A. area around 2000. It used to belong to friend of mine, James Richard Wilson, who lost his battle with cancer and I couldn't afford it at the time it was for sale. Any help would be appreciated. It was last seen for sale at Spring Fling... 
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Re: A66
[Re: jeff968]
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05/02/10 08:57 PM
05/02/10 08:57 PM
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I think you are missing one of the larger sources of wheel lip moldings on non-wheel lip molding cars, the dealer!!! One of my old T/As had moldings on it. When I spoke to the original owner he told me the dealer offered and he accepted the installation of WLMs along with the carpets on the bottoms of the door panels before he took delivery of the car. I'm sure this happened a lot in order to make a sale or make more money for the dealer.
Jeff
I thought most T/A-AAR's were not special ordered. So did the dealers get what ever Chrysler sent them? Or did the dealer get to order for their inventory?
I'd think by the time most T/A-AAR's hit the dealers, they weren't making them anymore. You got what you got or had the dealer install stuff.
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Re: A66
[Re: autoxcuda]
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05/02/10 09:08 PM
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I think you are missing one of the larger sources of wheel lip moldings on non-wheel lip molding cars, the dealer!!! One of my old T/As had moldings on it. When I spoke to the original owner he told me the dealer offered and he accepted the installation of WLMs along with the carpets on the bottoms of the door panels before he took delivery of the car. I'm sure this happened a lot in order to make a sale or make more money for the dealer.
Jeff
I thought most T/A-AAR's were not special ordered. So did the dealers get what ever Chrysler sent them? Or did the dealer get to order for their inventory?
I'd think by the time most T/A-AAR's hit the dealers, they weren't making them anymore. You got what you got or had the dealer install stuff.
They were sales bank cars, which means they were built and sat in the holding area of the assembly plant until ordered by a dealer. Dealers would receive computer print out sheets that showed the cars and how they were equipped and could order the available car of their choice.
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Re: A66
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05/02/10 09:14 PM
05/02/10 09:14 PM
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I thought most T/A-AAR's were not special ordered. So did the dealers get what ever Chrysler sent them? Or did the dealer get to order for their inventory?
Several AARs & T/As were ordered by dealerships.
Mr. Norm's ordered well over 100 T/As, I have seen the order blanks for them. I did not see one sales bank car in the bunch.
The term "special order" is for things like 999 paint. Cars ordered at a dealership for the most part were not "special" unless something out of the ordinary was specified. 
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Re: A66
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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05/02/10 09:49 PM
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Several AARs & T/As were ordered by dealerships.
Mr. Norm's ordered well over 100 T/As, I have seen the order blanks for them. I did not see one sales bank car in the bunch.
Not saying there were no special orders by individual dealers, just that it is a well know fact that the factory built enough to be legal for the racing purpose of the cars. Mr. Norm being the largest volume hipo Dodge dealer in the world at that time, would have known of these cars first in the dealer pipeline and it is not surprising that he would have order those and likely got some of the first ones shipped.
What were the shipping dates of the cars as opposed to the SPD of the sales bank cars?
Other dealers could have special ordered these cars, however if there were many left in sales bank the sales reps DISCOURAGED it and if there was something close to what the customer/dealer wanted to order they would cut a deal to move the sales bank car if necessary. The big advantage was that the time to special order a car was 4 weeks vs a few days shipping time of the sales bank car. In fact, there MAY have been a cut off date for production on these cars and if you didn't have an order in early there may have been no choice but to take a sales bank car.
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Re: A66
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07/02/10 02:59 PM
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Thought I would share this one with you, it belongs to a friend of mine who has a few Mopars that have been setting since the early 80's and now beginning to dig them out.
It is a 70 Challenger 340 A66 car
the fender tag reads as follows:
Line 1 26 End1
Line 2 N41 N42 R11 V9X Y05
Line 3 G31 G33 H51 J54 M21 M31
Line 4 V1X A63 A66 B51 C16 C55
Line 5 TX9 H6T5 000 C11 034014
Line 6 E55 D32 JH23 H0B 218XXX
It is all original but does need & will be restored.
Anyone have any idea at how many Black Over Black with Saddle interior were built?
1969 Road Runner Hdtp 383 4 speed R4 A15 Spring Special
1970 Super Bee Cpe 383 Auto EW1 V6B
1978 Magnum XE 360 Black T Top
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Re: A66
[Re: DetMatt]
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07/03/10 12:13 AM
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I'll see what I can do on the pictures of it this upcoming week, as I said we are digging them out he also has 2 70 Gran Coupes 1 383 4bbl auto Red, Red interior & Red Rubber front bumper, the other is primered and a 6 banger, and a 70 R/T SE 440 4bbl Tan metallic, White vinyl Tan leather buckets, PW air & Luggage rack, I had sold him that car back in 82. I will see if I can get to the fender tag on all 3 & pictures. These have been setting since the mid 80's in storage
1969 Road Runner Hdtp 383 4 speed R4 A15 Spring Special
1970 Super Bee Cpe 383 Auto EW1 V6B
1978 Magnum XE 360 Black T Top
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Re: A66
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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07/07/10 10:37 PM
07/07/10 10:37 PM
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I would LOVE to see close up photos of the stripe / mask lines. So far for the known cars with the same color stripes they have all been repainted.
Pretty please? 
 I just saw this and agree with Barry completely. Those other cars sound like really great cars, but PLEASE, if the car is original paint, do anything you can to get pics of that black painted stripe on a black painted car. It's a rare thing, and would really benefit the hobby to document an original paint car with that combo. As Barry mentioned, the other known cars with a same color stripe have been repainted. Their owners would like to know what is the correct way to paint the stripe on the car.
The stripe was painted first and then masked off before the rest of the car was painted. What we need to confirm is if the black stripe color was slightly different than the black body color, and/or if that masking process was still followed when the stripe was the same color as the rest of the car. Are there any masking lines that show where the stripe was taped off?
Tav
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