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a 440 equipped b-body with a 727, 3.23 and no a/c....
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Re: Standard radiator width in '69 and '70 for...
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Re: Standard radiator width in '69 and '70 for...
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Well guys.... I was aiming at Daytonas and Superbirds... I thought the base rear gear for any of them would have been a 3.23 gear for a 727. But, after doing some research with some buddies of mine, it seems pretty much every Daytona had an axle package, hence a 26". There's one "example" of a Daytona with a 440 727 and supposedly a 3.23 and a vintage picture that did show a 22" radiator. Also, all Superbirds were to be made standard with an axle package (3.55 or 3.54), hence always getting a 26" rad.
So, whereas the Superbird by default would have had it by design, the Daytonas seemed to have them by "chance" design, if it can be worded as such. The A13 Superbird code calls for an axle package, but the 69 1/2 Daytona A11 doesn't require an axle package.
Oh well, thought I was on to something... Sooo, is there ANY Daytonas out there with a 440, 727, 3.23 combo? And, if so, is your car equipped with a 22" or 26". I thought by the restricted air flow from the nose, the 26" would be mandatory.
Also, my digging deeper turned the page on me.
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TroyHouston Mopar Connection Club'69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)
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Re: Standard radiator width in '69 and '70 for...
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2.76s weren't an axle package, just an OPTIONAL ratio. Superbirds with automatics had 3.55s & 8-3/4" ONLY Superbirds with 4-speeds had 3.54s & DANA 60s ONLY I'd "assume" someone could've put in 2.76s in an attempt for gas mileage.  Quote:
Did the 22" and 26" use the same size
cut-out in the core support?
I think the 4" difference in the core support is all to the passenger side.
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2.76s weren't an axle package, just an OPTIONAL ratio.
Superbirds with automatics had 3.55s & 8-3/4" ONLY
Superbirds with 4-speeds had 3.54s & DANA 60s ONLY
I'd "assume" someone could've put in 2.76s in an attempt for gas mileage.
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Did the 22" and 26" use the same size
cut-out in the core support?
I think the 4" difference in the core support is all to the passenger side.
Both sides are different on both B & E bodies...
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I thought all wingcars received max cooling with the wingcar pkg. regardless of rear gear
Superbirds were all destined, but option code breakdown, to have an axle package. So, by default, all would have to have a 26" radiator. As far as teh Daytona goes, the A11 option did not specify an axle package. I think it just turned out that most, if not all but one "known" units, came down the assemble line with an axle package. Now, for me, it begs the question..
Did the engineers make sure the Daytona came with an axle package, thereby getting a 26" radiator? Or, was it fate?
The A13 Superbird was to get an axle package. So, what that because they didn't want any with 3.23's or did they really want all to come with 26" radiators and to facilitate this, they mandated an axle package.
A13 Superbird Package
Aerodynamic Front End treatment, hideaway headlights, fender vents, Vinyl Roof, Hood Tie-down Pins, Power Steering, Power-Disc Brakes, A33 w/D21 or A36 w/D32, 440 44bl, Special windshield moldings, Goodyear polyglas raised white letter tires, larger "PLYMOUTH" logo on rear quarters, special order front and rear spoiler to name the majority of them
A11 XX29 Charger Daytona
Aerodynamic Front End treatment, Special windshield mouldings, fender vents, front and rear spoiler, hideaway headlights, HD 11" Drum brakes, Bucket seats, A727, 440 4bbl, HD battery, Electric clock, Bumper guards - RR, HEMI Suspension, Red streak tires, Daytona Bumblebee Stripe, Special Order
No where on A11 does it mention axle package..
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My buddies Superbird 440-4 Auto came with a 3.54 geared Dana..
That's a first.. I've never heard of a Dana equipped auto car unless it was a 4.10 (which wasn't available on Superbirds)
I have a friend here in Houston as well with a 440 4bbl A727 with a Dana. He thought it was original since the previous owner told him it was. After looking at the broadcast sheet, I showed him where it came with a 3.55:1 8.75 rear originally....
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My buddies Superbird 440-4 Auto came with a 3.54 geared Dana..
That's a first.. I've never heard of a Dana equipped auto car unless it was a 4.10 (which wasn't available on Superbirds)
I have a friend here in Houston as well with a 440 4bbl A727 with a Dana. He thought it was original since the previous owner told him it was. After looking at the broadcast sheet, I showed him where it came with a 3.55:1 8.75 rear originally....
Troy
My buddies is coded as a 3.55 8.75 also.. But he's the second owner & has known of the bird since new it left the factory this way.. Your buddies might have come that way too... 
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