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Re: Do these look ported to you?
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Sounds like an internet deal gone south. Might be worth the few bucks to get one flowed and see how bad they really are, that will at least give you some ammo against the seller.
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Re: Do these look ported to you?
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12/10/09 03:29 PM
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bought them off here, within a 4hour drive, so if worse comes to worse....
I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to start, awaiting for info on who did the work. Also have a call into the closest shop around here that can do flow testing on prices to get an idea if they are any better than stock, yes.
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Re: Do these look ported to you?
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12/10/09 04:32 PM
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while the exact flow sheets were not available, they were sold as heavily ported by a professional and some 1/4mi times and vehicle info was shared that I didn't think could be obtained with substantially unported heads.
I didn't get any pictures ahead of time (in hindsight an error), mostly because it was claimed the port job was done by a guy from a professional shop that is on here (not going to name them, as they had no part in the sale and there's no need to drag them in here).
Local shop here wants $150 to just check a few ports to see where we're at, is that the going rate? I don't need a full workup done, I just need to see 2 intakes/2 exh to see what they are.
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Re: Do these look ported to you?
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12/10/09 05:10 PM
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they look ported to me with an untouched floor. they are not going to look like a -1 head
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Re: Do these look ported to you?
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12/10/09 05:16 PM
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I have never ported a set myself, so I am a novice for sure. What concerned me right off the bat is what looked like a lot of untouched rough casting walls, which would mean they weren't touched.
Like I said, I'm not going off on the guy yet, I'm just trying to reconcile what I see vs. what I thought I bought. I'll be pleased as punch if these actually do flow well, as that's what I want and what I paid for!
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Re: Do these look ported to you?
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12/10/09 05:55 PM
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I feel for you in that you expected more than you recieved, but quite frankly I don't think you did enough homework before you bought them. I don't see how flow testing them now will give you any leverage against the seller unless he claimed specific numbers or specific porting work before you bought them, all of the other info you posted concerning race car numbers etc.are subjective. 
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Re: Do these look ported to you?
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I appreciate that, but I wasn't asking whether anyone thinks I have recourse with the guy, I was asking if any experienced guys can tell by my blurry cam shots here whether I got anything near what I was told they were (trying this first before spending more money to verify). I'm a big boy and will live with whatever the outcome. Whether they are decent heads or not will depend if I spend more money on a project, so having them flowed is as much to see where I'm at now as anything.
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Re: Do these look ported to you?
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12/10/09 06:15 PM
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whether I got anything near what I was told they were
I guess that's where I'm a bit lost here. It doesn't seem clear as to exactly what you were told regarding the details of the porting work. As far as his description, based on what you posted a few posts back he used fairly general terms in describing the work that's been done and not much in the way of specifics.
All that aside I'd say that what you ended up with are a set of 516 heads with bigger valves and a clean up porting job in the intake runners and not much else, the resulting flow would probably amount to what you would get out of a basically stock set of 915 heads.
Are they decent heads? Probably once they have a fresh valve job put on them, question is, are the "decent" enough to give you the amount of flow get your cars combo to perform like you'd hoped? Hard to say giving the info we have so far.
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Re: Do these look ported to you?
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12/10/09 06:22 PM
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Do these look ported to you?
Considering they're still assembled and have lots of "stuff" in the ports, it's not clear exactly what's been done to 'em. Strip them down, get the "stuff" out of the bowls & the runners, and take some pics where you actually show what's been done (if anything) in the valve bowls, etc.
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Re: Do these look ported to you?
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516's, 2.14/1.81's
These are supposed to be full ported, no exact numbers, but north of 270/190. Not quite what I was expecting when I opened the box.
Were they complete with valves and fresh or used?
Have you run them yet?
Who said north of 270/190 and @ what lift?
What was the price if you don't mind me asking. 
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Re: Do these look ported to you?
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Do these look ported to you?
Considering they're still assembled and have lots of "stuff" in the ports, it's not clear exactly what's been done to 'em. Strip them down, get the "stuff" out of the bowls & the runners, and take some pics where you actually show what's been done (if anything) in the valve bowls, etc.
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Re: Do these look ported to you?
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how the heck can you tell from those pictures? you need to get the crud out of there.. and show a picture of the bowl and or guide.. looks from the tiny bit i can see that . there is porting on the pushrod pinch..and porting around the roof/guide..but its hard to tell..for sure.. pop a keeper off and pull a valve... i will say this much the motor they came off of.. either had no ring seal..or the carb was missing a bunch of screws...that thing is carbon rich.. or maybe they ran it on diesel fuel.?  cheapst.
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