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Re: welding race cars
[Re: bonefish]
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12/07/09 10:16 AM
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I use Lincoln welders, I have a 220 version mig but the day I bought it I bought a heavier gun and cable for it... the one that comes on it is pretty wimpy. I also have their tig unit. I would suggest a brand name unit so you can get parts for it easy 
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Re: welding race cars
[Re: bonefish]
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12/07/09 10:37 AM
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i was lookin at the lincolns and millers ,but really dont know witch modle would suite my needs,i have a little lincoln mig pac 10,it works great for thin brackets and such but what specs or modle #should i be looking for to meet my needs?
I have a 170T but its a few years old... I would look
at 170 to 195 range.... that'll do most anything
for a hobbyist... make sure you get the bottle
attachment... dont waste your time with core wire
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Re: welding race cars
[Re: justinp61]
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12/07/09 11:03 AM
12/07/09 11:03 AM
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Buy the biggest you can afford. I have a Miller 210 mig and a Miller Syncrowave 250DX stick/tig. At some point I will buy a Miller 252 mig though.
I would like to buy a bigger tig... something in
the 250-300 range... when I'm welding on intakes
I have to pre-heat alot of them
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Re: welding race cars
[Re: joshking440]
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12/07/09 11:22 AM
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If you were to learn one type of welding and had not much previous experience, I would definetly buy a tig. Much more versatile, you cant weld chrome-moly with a mig, or most other metals other than just good old mild steel. I am also of the opinion that to learn to tig is much easier, but that is jsut my opinion
Mig welding is much easier(IMO), I do all of it but
if you can move you hand and get the sound of bacon
frying you are mig welding... it'll weld moly, mild, and SS
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Re: welding race cars
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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12/07/09 11:49 AM
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If you were to learn one type of welding and had not much previous experience, I would definetly buy a tig. Much more versatile, you cant weld chrome-moly with a mig, or most other metals other than just good old mild steel. I am also of the opinion that to learn to tig is much easier, but that is jsut my opinion
Mig welding is much easier(IMO), I do all of it but
if you can move you hand and get the sound of bacon
frying you are mig welding... it'll weld moly, mild, and SS
 Don't forget aluminum.
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Re: welding race cars
[Re: bonefish]
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12/07/09 12:33 PM
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Unless you do it for a living or do it alot, M.I.G. is the way to go. Forgiving, easy to learn, good for out-of-position welding. Go with a gas system verses flux core. I bought a used HTP 140 a few years back. Runs off of 110, has pause and weld time controls ( stitch welding ) and can easily weld up to 1/4". Makes an amateur ( that would be me ) look good.
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Re: welding race cars
[Re: justinp61]
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12/07/09 12:33 PM
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If you were to learn one type of welding and had not much previous experience, I would definetly buy a tig. Much more versatile, you cant weld chrome-moly with a mig, or most other metals other than just good old mild steel. I am also of the opinion that to learn to tig is much easier, but that is jsut my opinion
Mig welding is much easier(IMO), I do all of it but
if you can move you hand and get the sound of bacon
frying you are mig welding... it'll weld moly, mild, and SS
Don't forget aluminum.
Yeah that also but you need a separate liner or
another cable... I was just referring to simple stuff
but the mig is a very versatile machine
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Re: welding race cars
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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12/07/09 12:57 PM
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If you were to learn one type of welding and had not much previous experience, I would definetly buy a tig. Much more versatile, you cant weld chrome-moly with a mig, or most other metals other than just good old mild steel. I am also of the opinion that to learn to tig is much easier, but that is jsut my opinion
Mig welding is much easier(IMO), I do all of it but
if you can move you hand and get the sound of bacon
frying you are mig welding... it'll weld moly, mild, and SS
Don't forget aluminum.
Yeah that also but you need a separate liner or
another cable... I was just referring to simple stuff
but the mig is a very versatile machine
Yes, it is a little more of a hassle switching between steel and aluminum. If you do a lot of aluminum work too, your best bet is to buy a complete seperate cable / liner and gun all set up for the aluminum wire size you normally use. Don't scimp on the helmet ether. Auto-darkening for sure and get one with a big lense ( especially if you ware glasses )that has adjustable darkening, sensitivity and delay features. Mine is a "Kobalt". Probably one of the least expensive helmets that still has all the above mentioned features.
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Re: welding race cars
[Re: Crizila]
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12/07/09 01:02 PM
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If you were to learn one type of welding and had not much previous experience, I would definetly buy a tig. Much more versatile, you cant weld chrome-moly with a mig, or most other metals other than just good old mild steel. I am also of the opinion that to learn to tig is much easier, but that is jsut my opinion
Mig welding is much easier(IMO), I do all of it but
if you can move you hand and get the sound of bacon
frying you are mig welding... it'll weld moly, mild, and SS
Don't forget aluminum.
Yeah that also but you need a separate liner or
another cable... I was just referring to simple stuff
but the mig is a very versatile machine
Yes, it is a little more of a hassle switching between steel and aluminum. If you do a lot of aluminum work too, your best bet is to buy a complete seperate cable / liner and gun all set up for the aluminum wire size you normally use. Don't scimp on the helmet ether. Auto-darkening for sure and get one with a big lense ( especially if you ware glasses )that has adjustable darkening, sensitivity and delay features. Mine is a "Kobalt". Probably one of the least expensive helmets that still has all the above mentioned features.
Now i am pretty sure that to weul chrome moly and have it certify, it must be tigged, and if you ever want to weld stainless or aluminum and have it look really good you need to tig it. but just my opinion
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Re: welding race cars
[Re: joshking440]
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12/07/09 01:15 PM
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If you were to learn one type of welding and had not much previous experience, I would definetly buy a tig. Much more versatile, you cant weld chrome-moly with a mig, or most other metals other than just good old mild steel. I am also of the opinion that to learn to tig is much easier, but that is jsut my opinion
Mig welding is much easier(IMO), I do all of it but
if you can move you hand and get the sound of bacon
frying you are mig welding... it'll weld moly, mild, and SS
Don't forget aluminum.
Yeah that also but you need a separate liner or
another cable... I was just referring to simple stuff
but the mig is a very versatile machine
Yes, it is a little more of a hassle switching between steel and aluminum. If you do a lot of aluminum work too, your best bet is to buy a complete seperate cable / liner and gun all set up for the aluminum wire size you normally use. Don't scimp on the helmet ether. Auto-darkening for sure and get one with a big lense ( especially if you ware glasses )that has adjustable darkening, sensitivity and delay features. Mine is a "Kobalt". Probably one of the least expensive helmets that still has all the above mentioned features.
Now i am pretty sure that to weul chrome moly and have it certify, it must be tigged, and if you ever want to weld stainless or aluminum and have it look really good you need to tig it. but just my opinion
Don't know about the certification thing, but no two ways that T.I.G. is the way to go - in the hands of a professional. I am no where near an expert when it comes to welding ( or metalergy ), and I would not attempt to weld up a $2K set of heads, etc, but I would have no qualms about welding up suspension stuff - from a strength standpoint.
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Re: welding race cars
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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12/07/09 04:55 PM
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If you were to learn one type of welding and had not much previous experience, I would definetly buy a tig. Much more versatile, you cant weld chrome-moly with a mig, or most other metals other than just good old mild steel. I am also of the opinion that to learn to tig is much easier, but that is jsut my opinion
Mig welding is much easier(IMO), I do all of it but
if you can move you hand and get the sound of bacon
frying you are mig welding... it'll weld moly, mild, and SS
Don't forget aluminum.
Yeah that also but you need a separate liner or
another cable... I was just referring to simple stuff
but the mig is a very versatile machine
I have a spool gun and my Miller has the "gun on demand" feature. So which ever gun I pick up it's always hot.
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