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Has anyone tried the new Musclecar Oil? Z-Alt #547376
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Z-ALT™ Muscle Car Oil that is produced for older engines and contains Zinc.
formulated specifically for maxiumum proctection & performance of pre-1975 gasoline powered cars and trucks. Contains NO CHLORINE, TEFLON OR SOLVENTS. Z-ALT™ Muscle Car Oil is a must for flat tappet cam engines.

Mass marketed oil companies constantly re-engineer their products for the latest engine applications which has left older vehicle engines without the essential detergents and anti-wear agents they need to operate properly. With ever tightening EPA regulations and catalytic converter damage related to zinc, ZDDP has been drastically reduced in modern oils.

ZDDP is an essential friction reducing agent for all vehicles that utilize flat tappet camshafts. Use of an oil without ZDDP in flat tappet cam engines greatly increases the probability of premature wear, engine seizure and even complete failure. Z-ALT™ comes in old school vintage style cans with an easy pour top.


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Re: Has anyone tried the new Musclecar Oil? Z-Alt [Re: 340wedge] #547377
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How much does it cost?

Re: Has anyone tried the new Musclecar Oil? Z-Alt [Re: 340wedge] #547378
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It's about $47.00 for a set of 6 cans. It's being advertised by year one, some others here too, just curious if it is good stuff


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Re: Has anyone tried the new Musclecar Oil? Z-Alt [Re: 340wedge] #547379
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Re: Has anyone tried the new Musclecar Oil? Z-Alt [Re: stumpy] #547380
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No 10-40 advertised.

Re: Has anyone tried the new Musclecar Oil? Z-Alt [Re: 340wedge] #547381
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It's about $47.00 for a set of 6 cans. It's being advertised by year one, some others here too, just curious if it is good stuff




that's insane , but what I expected , ZDDP additive is cheaper .

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I refilled my 1971, bone stock 440 +6 with Z-Alt, (replacing Lucas semi synthetic with an added bottle of STP) and the difference is startling. How so? After about 10 miles of driving every click and noise is gone. The car sounds noticeably quieter and feels smoother in a way that is hard to describe.... the tone of the engine seems "heavier" "deeper." Not sure what exactly is happening here, but I've never experienced anything like this with a simple oil change. Crazy!

The difference is not in the least bit subtle... What does it all mean? I really don't know, but I can tell you that Ol' PLMQWZY seems very happy... smooth, quiet, cool......

Nice stuff. I would buy it again.

Ritchie

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I refilled my 1971, bone stock 440 +6 with Z-Alt, (replacing Lucas semi synthetic with an added bottle of STP) and the difference is startling. How so? After about 10 miles of driving every click and noise is gone. The car sounds noticeably quieter and feels smoother in a way that is hard to describe.... the tone of the engine seems "heavier" "deeper." Not sure what exactly is happening here, but I've never experienced anything like this with a simple oil change. Crazy!

The difference is not in the least bit subtle... What does it all mean? I really don't know, but I can tell you that Ol' PLMQWZY seems very happy... smooth, quiet, cool......

Nice stuff. I would buy it again.

Ritchie


What a shameless plug..lol.

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What a shameless plug..lol.




Yes, I'm a shamelessly happy customer, why is that a problem given the topic of this thread?

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Lucas is known to cause foaming and STP is goop that doesn't belong in a good engine. Any better outcome would likely have been seen from using any standard oil with ZDDP added or built into the oil.


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And to my knowledge, ZAlt still won't post a Blackstone report for us to review and we know they monitor and/or free advertise on this board.

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I've spent the last year studying oil, including the Z-alt product. Z-alt is a totally new, unique additive that mixes with any lubricant and through the use of molys in solution, adds up to 10 times the film strength to any oil it is added to.

Let me first claify what a Blackstone report is. Blackstone is one of several inexpensive independent oil testing facilities that will perform limited oil testing for about $700. Z-alt chose Harris Laboratories to perform much broader testing than Blackstone which included corrosion of various metals and seal hydration testing, in the neighborhood of $70,000. That 151 page report is fully disclosed at www.z-alt.com for anyone to review.

Z-alt additive is the key ingredient in Z-alt's muscle car oil, giving it (from what I've seen) superior protection over existing oils. However, there is no "ONE OIL FITS ALL". Z-alt's muscle car oil is a retro (1975 and older) SG petroleum formula oil with the correct ZDDP and detergent pack for such vehicles, making it the perfect blend for a muscle car. Z-alt 10x oil booster will be available this spring to substantially improve any exisitng oil it is added to.

As far as any real world testing, Z-alt oil booster is currently being utilized in NHRA top fuel and an 8-second alcohol door slammer, both with excellent results over the course of the last year. It is also currently being tested by NASCAR teams and the United States Military.

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Even though I now have a roller motor I almost ordered a 'six pack' of the stuff. The price isn't all that bad when you consider that a quality 'regular' oil can run around 4$ per quart (24$ for six) and a bottle of Lucas zinc additive runs about 13$ for a total of 37$. I was leary of what the shipping would add to the price. If (and/or when) it is in the stores locally I will probably give it a try. I put about 3,000 miles per year on my car cruising around and going to car shows so compared to the money I have into my car one 50$ oil change per year isn't that big of a deal. I'm just glad that there are companies out there willing to come up with products for a relatively small market !

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What a shameless plug..lol.




Yes, I'm a shamelessly happy customer, why is that a problem given the topic of this thread?


Not a problem at all, why? It was in good humor.

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I've spent the last year studying oil, including the Z-alt product. Z-alt is a totally new, unique additive that mixes with any lubricant and through the use of molys in solution, adds up to 10 times the film strength to any oil it is added to.

Let me first claify what a Blackstone report is. Blackstone is one of several inexpensive independent oil testing facilities that will perform limited oil testing for about $700. Z-alt chose Harris Laboratories to perform much broader testing than Blackstone which included corrosion of various metals and seal hydration testing, in the neighborhood of $70,000. That 151 page report is fully disclosed at www.z-alt.com for anyone to review.

Z-alt additive is the key ingredient in Z-alt's muscle car oil, giving it (from what I've seen) superior protection over existing oils. However, there is no "ONE OIL FITS ALL". Z-alt's muscle car oil is a retro (1975 and older) SG petroleum formula oil with the correct ZDDP and detergent pack for such vehicles, making it the perfect blend for a muscle car. Z-alt 10x oil booster will be available this spring to substantially improve any exisitng oil it is added to.

As far as any real world testing, Z-alt oil booster is currently being utilized in NHRA top fuel and an 8-second alcohol door slammer, both with excellent results over the course of the last year. It is also currently being tested by NASCAR teams and the United States Military.


Lots of claims, where's the proof. Are you a dealer? What are your creditials as an authority on the subject?

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The proof is in the Harris Laboratories independent testing report and can be found here: Z-alt and then click on Z-alt Independent Test Results .

You obviously have no personal experience with this product yet you immediately dismiss the opinion of others who do. May I ask what your credentials are on this subject? And are you an oil dealer?

Re: My two cents [Re: Intense RT Dan] #547392
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You're part owner in the company of course you're going to say that stuff. Whether it's true or not.

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I am very well known in the hobby and would not be personally involved in any company that I didn't believe in their product 110%.

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Follow the money.. A member for 11 months yet fully 25% of your posts so far to date relate to this thread...

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And your point would be.....?

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