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Re: pistons and cam to a 360
[Re: Intense RT Dan]
#541042
12/09/09 12:22 AM
12/09/09 12:22 AM
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Las Vegas, NV
dodgeboy11
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If you decide to go with a stroker in the future (which would completely blow your 1000 dollar budget) stay far away from the eagle cast crankshaft. It is a bit of a fragile piece. Scat makes a very affordable 4340 I beam rod with capscrews and it's a full floating setup. Eagle has an I beam rod, the SIR that is cheaper yet, but not as strong as the Scat. I'd recommend the new aftermarket rod selection rather than rebuilding stock rods as this will make rod lengths much more consistent, which, if you are shooting for a good quench setup, will make it much easier. It's somewhat difficult to rebuild stock rods and make them all the same length without converting them to full floating rods, and by the time you do that, you could have had new rods. I'm a little concerned about your smog requirements. I've never had to build a performance smog motor and I am unsure how difficult it would be to stay under the CO requirements. What is your octane available at the pump, and what measurement is used to get that number? I know it's different from country to country and some 98 octane may be the same as our 91 or less 
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Re: pistons and cam to a 360
[Re: 451Mopar]
#541043
12/09/09 08:12 AM
12/09/09 08:12 AM
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Baton Rouge, La.
StandOnIt
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The stroker kits are great for power, but I though you were on a tight budget. Besides, to feed the extra size of the stroker you will need aftermarket heads.
We have put plenty strokers together with iron heads. I have one right now in a Volare that will run 11.20's in the 1/4 and leaves with the front tires in the air, (Ross pistons, eagle rods, MP purple camshaft around .510 lift, 904 trans 3800 BTE converter, 4.30 rear on 29" tires weighing in at 3200lbs wet with driver). I was running stock rods in it for a while when I put it together for the first time, budget build with the cast mopar stroker pistons. My dist came loose and I lost a few pistons.I ran an Eddie airgap at first and made great power down low the switched to an M1 and it moved the power range up a few hundred rpm so you could really use either intake. You just can't beat the tourqe of a small stroker. The engines manners are great IMO also. You will have to consider the extra cost tho. Its easy to get 400 to 450 hp from a mild iron headed stroker. If I were doing another, I would sit on my project a few more months to save up a little more and do it right. You won't be dissapointed.
76' Volare, 5.9 magnum w/Iron heads. New best 10.68 at 123 mph 1/4 mile.
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Re: pistons and cam to a 360
[Re: 451Mopar]
#541045
01/13/10 05:31 PM
01/13/10 05:31 PM
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Denmark, Aeroe
Moparbil
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I have done some research on parts for the descriebed rebuild. The bore will be 0,020. Speed pro H116CP pistons is not possible to get in this size as a set. Bought each they get too expensive. also not possible to get any piston weight data. So I will go for KB107 Regarding Cam the choice is Lunati. But I am in doubt if it shall be 60403 or 60404 Will the HP / TQ data kindly given by 451Mopar alter much if 60403 was choosen? I want HP and TQ but is little sensitive about how the idle will be. Seeking the best compromise. Any driven experience with these cams welcome. 
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Re: pistons and cam to a 360
[Re: Moparbil]
#541046
01/14/10 03:41 AM
01/14/10 03:41 AM
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Aurora, Colorado
451Mopar
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I have done some research on parts for the descriebed rebuild.
The bore will be 0,020. Speed pro H116CP pistons is not possible to get in this size as a set. Bought each they get too expensive. also not possible to get any piston weight data.
So I will go for KB107
Regarding Cam the choice is Lunati. But I am in doubt if it shall be 60403 or 60404
Will the HP / TQ data kindly given by 451Mopar alter much if 60403 was choosen?
I want HP and TQ but is little sensitive about how the idle will be. Seeking the best compromise.
Any driven experience with these cams welcome.
The 60403 should be good. It may be more sensitive to the fuel octane rating because it will trap more cylinder pressure. If the pressure is too high, you could install the cam a few degrees retarded (108 to 110 degree intake centerline) so the intake valve closes later.
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Re: pistons and cam to a 360
[Re: 451Mopar]
#541047
01/14/10 06:43 AM
01/14/10 06:43 AM
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Berlin, Germany
Flo
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Berlin, Germany
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Your email does not work. Just sent you a PM. You can call me up if you like.
I recently built a 348 (out of a 318). I destroyed it on the dyno, but it should meet your performance requirements. I used a Comp Cam 264 HR12 with Edelbrock heads. 268 would probably be it for what you want.
Greets
Flo
1967 Fury III 4door HT
tiny 318, late model roller block, bored and stroked to 344
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