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SS Springs for street car #540757 11/29/09 11:11 PM 11/29/09 11:11 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 150 Seymour,IN. H HoosierGTX OP member
HoosierGTX OP member H Joined: May 2009 Posts: 150 Seymour,IN.	Wondering everyones opinion on using super stock springs on the street,my springs on my 65 Coronet are shot and I have a new set of 3400 lbs. that have been in my shop for years,please let me know your opinions on this setup!

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: HoosierGTX] #540758 11/29/09 11:15 PM 11/29/09 11:15 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	I had two different sets of 002-003 ss springs in A bodies that worked fine on street and strip.

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: buildanother] #540759 11/30/09 12:07 AM 11/30/09 12:07 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I have Mancini's 3400 lb SS springs on my 63 and I drive it all the time on the street. It rides and drives great. Ron

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: HoosierGTX] #540760 11/30/09 01:52 AM 11/30/09 01:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,061 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,061 Oregon	You need the correct hangers for a '65 B body. Mancini has them. The Mopar Performance hangers won't work on a '65 B body. SS springs work okay on the street. They aren't great for handling though because they are heavily biased.

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: AndyF] #540761 11/30/09 08:26 AM 11/30/09 08:26 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,287 West Coast, USA jbc426 master
jbc426 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,287 West Coast, USA	I used a pair of left side springs( or was it the right side ones?) on my '68 convertible A-body. Either way, they sit level and ride & handle great. 5635931-753013-R1-044-20A_013(Large).jpg (48 downloads) 1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: HoosierGTX] #540762 11/30/09 08:37 AM 11/30/09 08:37 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop dustergirl340 Chicken Little
dustergirl340 Chicken Little Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop	I've had SS springs on mine for the past few years, street/strip. No problems.

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: dustergirl340] #540763 11/30/09 08:58 AM 11/30/09 08:58 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,012 indiana M mcmopars super stock
mcmopars super stock M Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,012 indiana	too harsh a ride for me.but im getting old too.they work great but just stiff.imo Last edited by mcmopars; 11/30/09 09:04 AM.

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: HoosierGTX] #540764 11/30/09 10:16 AM 11/30/09 10:16 AM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,565 tennessee P pushbutton pro stock
pushbutton pro stock P Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,565 tennessee	I have a pair on my 63 plym. street car. No problems,ride is a little choppy,but I have stock shocks on the rear. Longer shocks might help. Dodge has a longer wheel base,so yours should ride better. I'd run them.

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: HoosierGTX] #540765 11/30/09 11:00 AM 11/30/09 11:00 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,708 S. Il. U.S.A. 5spdcuda top fuel
5spdcuda top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,708 S. Il. U.S.A.	There are a lot of opinions about what constitutes a "street" car. Clearly a lot of people have used SS springs on the street and are happy with the results. That said, they are not a very good choice. To expand on AndyF's comments, in addition to being biased they are also strongly cambered. In other words they are strongly arched. This results in two things. It raises the rear of the car which helps with tire clearance, but it also results in the spring not being flat at ride height. For best handling a rear leaf spring should be flat or nearly so at ride height. If the spring is arched at ride height then when you go around a corner weight transfer will cause the outside wheel move up relative to the body resulting in the spring becoming flat. This in turn forces that wheel to move rearwards thus resulting in a toe out condition at the rear wheel. A toe out condition at the rear results in oversteer. If cornering speeds are fairly low, you probably won't notice it. If they're high, you will notice it and you WILL be BUSY.

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: 5spdcuda] #540766 11/30/09 11:08 AM 11/30/09 11:08 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,826 NY usa 5 540challenger master
540challenger master 5 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,826 NY usa	Quote: There are a lot of opinions about what constitutes a "street" car. Clearly a lot of people have used SS springs on the street and are happy with the results. That said, they are not a very good choice. To expand on AndyF's comments, in addition to being biased they are also strongly cambered. In other words they are strongly arched. This results in two things. It raises the rear of the car which helps with tire clearance, but it also results in the spring not being flat at ride height. For best handling a rear leaf spring should be flat or nearly so at ride height. If the spring is arched at ride height then when you go around a corner weight transfer will cause the outside wheel move up relative to the body resulting in the spring becoming flat. This in turn forces that wheel to move rearwards thus resulting in a toe out condition at the rear wheel. A toe out condition at the rear results in oversteer. If cornering speeds are fairly low, you probably won't notice it. If they're high, you will notice it and you WILL be BUSY. Very well said, i have been driving around with SS springs for a few years now and IMO it is not that too bad. Also if you do go with the SS springs make sure you get the correct length shock the stock ones are not long enough. Plus i don't remember which ones to order but if it mainly on the street you want to order two passenger side springs or driver not sure which one. the reason is if you get the passenger and driver side ones. The driver side of the car will be slightly higher then the passenger side as it is meant for drag racing preloading the driver side when under a load to help lauch the car.

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: 540challenger] #540767 11/30/09 12:01 PM 11/30/09 12:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,081 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,081 Niles , Ohio	I have them on my 65.They ride OK.Like Andy said the MP pieces dont work.His hangers that Mancini sells are a nice piece.MP couldnt even get the stud pattern correct.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: therocks] #540768 11/30/09 05:29 PM 11/30/09 05:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,437 Warren, MI 71TA I Live Here
71TA I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,437 Warren, MI	I have a set on my Challenger along with MP long drag shocks and they are coming off in the spring. They WERE fine for a BAD street car but I now want something that actually rides more like a firm sports car than a dump truck. Still trying to decide which way to go. Probably XV or Hotchis but then I need std length 1" offset hangers cause I have an older B rear in my car too. UGH. Anyone have a near future need for E SS springs, long shocks, and MP 3/4" offset hanger setup? www.DetroitMuscleTechnologies.com Mopar body and heater box restoration gaskets

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: 71TA] #540769 11/30/09 05:38 PM 11/30/09 05:38 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,470 Florida STAYcation dOc ! The village idiot's idiot
dOc ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,470 Florida STAYcation	I have been running them for YEARS on my 62. I use a set of stocker Imperial shocks WITH shock-extensions and those coil-springs. Plants the tires well. The car runs 12 flat ...with a 2.76 gear on 6" Hoosier DOT tires.

Re: SS Springs for street car [Re: 71TA] #540770 11/30/09 06:44 PM 11/30/09 06:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,708 S. Il. U.S.A. 5spdcuda top fuel
5spdcuda top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,708 S. Il. U.S.A.	I don't want to stretch this thread too thin, but since we're on the subject of rear springs and handling, IMO even the standard HD springs [ 340,RT, 'Cuda, Hemi etc. ] are too stiff for optimal handling ["E" bodies ]. Apparently XV thinks so as well since their Level I uses relatively soft springs. The situation is probably slightly better with Challengers since they have two more inches of wheelbase and slightly more rear weight bias than 'Cudas. I think the ideal leaf spring set up would use a relatively soft spring with a rather weak, but adjustable anti-roll bar. The anti-roll bar would have to be on the weak side since an anti-roll bar tries to lift the inside wheel in cornering which makes it difficult to get the power down as early and as forcefully as you might wish. Just food for thought.

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