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Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode #53766 02/05/08 05:28 PM 02/05/08 05:28 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO 70Coronet500Vert OP master
70Coronet500Vert OP master Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO	3500 rpm at 45mph. Taking it in. Any advice on what to look for? Don't know codes yet. Guy at tranny shop said input or output sensor or possibly internal problem. Impossible to tell until he runs codes. No matter how responsible he may seem, never give your gun to a monkey! 1970 Coronet Vert 1972 Charger 1974 Satellite Sebring Plus Sundance 2001 Ram 4x4 2002 Intrepid 2006 300C

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: 70Coronet500Vert] #53767 02/05/08 05:30 PM 02/05/08 05:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,072 Louisville, KY. S Scottmon super stock
Scottmon super stock S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,072 Louisville, KY.	Probably one of the tranny speed sensors. Since they're electronically controlled trannies there is no governor and when one of the sensors goes it stays in 1st gear. Happened to my wife's 2000 Sebring JXI, IIRC cost about $150 at the dealership

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: Scottmon] #53768 02/05/08 06:59 PM 02/05/08 06:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 324 N.H. M mopar-addiction enthusiast
mopar-addiction enthusiast M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 324 N.H.	Same thing happened to my wifes 99 Caravan, speed sensor went.

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: 70Coronet500Vert] #53769 02/05/08 07:02 PM 02/05/08 07:02 PM
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blk00rt enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 377 Michigan Troll	on some chryslers if you turn the key on and off 4 times without starting the engine it will run the codes for you. On the last time leave the key in the on position but do not start the car. All this has to be done within like 15 seconds or so. Rob Dunn 1976 Dart Sport 360 2000 dakota RT 408 with 150 nitrous 2013 Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi 2009 Jeep Patriot

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: 70Coronet500Vert] #53770 02/05/08 07:57 PM 02/05/08 07:57 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,442 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,442 It's a dry heat	Quote: Impossible to tell until he runs codes.

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: gtx6970] #53771 02/05/08 08:14 PM 02/05/08 08:14 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Wifes speedo quit working, an the car went to limp mode, replaced the speed sensor which was external an back to normal.

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode #53772 02/05/08 09:48 PM 02/05/08 09:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,419 Kalispell Mt. H HotRodDave I Live Here
HotRodDave I Live Here H Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,419 Kalispell Mt.	When I worked at the dodge dealer 3 out of 4 cars in limp mode were doing it because of a speed sensor. If you had to guess that is a good place to start. If you want to know for sure you need to pull the codes I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: HotRodDave] #53773 02/05/08 10:07 PM 02/05/08 10:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Our 98 van would do that once in a while. Shut it down and sit a couple of minutes and start it and go. wouldn't act up for monthes again. Never any codes.

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: MoparforLife] #53774 02/06/08 07:33 AM 02/06/08 07:33 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,074 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,074 Niles , Ohio	Is the speedo working? If not that is usually the speed sensor.Pulling the codes is the best way though.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: 70Coronet500Vert] #53775 02/06/08 09:46 AM 02/06/08 09:46 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO 70Coronet500Vert OP master
70Coronet500Vert OP master Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO	A brief update. Last night we dropped it off at tranny shop. On the way there, it ran fine, shifted fine and in general behaved well. The fluid is full, red and not burnt or smelly. I did the on-off-on-off-on thing and all it said was DONE. Tranny guy said tranny codes don't show up in that computer, or at least all of them. The check engine light is still on though. I think it is a sensor. No matter how responsible he may seem, never give your gun to a monkey! 1970 Coronet Vert 1972 Charger 1974 Satellite Sebring Plus Sundance 2001 Ram 4x4 2002 Intrepid 2006 300C

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: 70Coronet500Vert] #53776 02/06/08 12:48 PM 02/06/08 12:48 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO 70Coronet500Vert OP master
70Coronet500Vert OP master Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO	Code of 1776, Solenoid Valve stuck I called the shop, he wants to drop the pan and "look around." The car drove fine for him and for his shop guy. I told him do not drop pan, do not change fluid, just stop working on it. I haev terrible luck with trannys once they are opened up. Whatcha yall think? No matter how responsible he may seem, never give your gun to a monkey! 1970 Coronet Vert 1972 Charger 1974 Satellite Sebring Plus Sundance 2001 Ram 4x4 2002 Intrepid 2006 300C

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: 70Coronet500Vert] #53777 02/06/08 02:01 PM 02/06/08 02:01 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 535 Ohio racerAL mopar
racerAL mopar Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 535 Ohio	we've had a few of these come through the dealership w/ this code.there is a TSB out on this issue.it explains in detail what to look for and how to fix.TSB -21-008-04.it could be as simple as a cable adjustment....OR...contaminated valve body.take it to a dealer,have them take a look at it,IMO this will save u alot of running around and throwing parts at it.if the dealer is to expensive to fix,pay them the check out time and then maybe take it to ur tanny shop,w/ the exact info u need to get it fixed correctly.let me know if u need any info on the valve body regarding pricing,or avalability...Alan -1967 Plymouth Satellite #3555 446 cid on E-85 best 1/4 et 10.577 @ 127.58 best 1/8 et 6.722 @ 100.68 best 60ft. 1.419

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: racerAL] #53778 02/06/08 04:13 PM 02/06/08 04:13 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO 70Coronet500Vert OP master
70Coronet500Vert OP master Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO	Thank you very much No matter how responsible he may seem, never give your gun to a monkey! 1970 Coronet Vert 1972 Charger 1974 Satellite Sebring Plus Sundance 2001 Ram 4x4 2002 Intrepid 2006 300C

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: 70Coronet500Vert] #53779 02/06/08 05:12 PM 02/06/08 05:12 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,442 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,442 It's a dry heat	after about 3 attemts to repair a valve body for this (usually stuck switch valve in the VB)I quit trying to repair them. Mopar valve bodies have dropped down in price. And I think there is a reman avail. IMO - Put a valve body and save the headaches

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: gtx6970] #53780 02/06/08 05:18 PM 02/06/08 05:18 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO 70Coronet500Vert OP master
70Coronet500Vert OP master Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO	Quote: after about 3 attemts to repair a valve body for this (usually stuck switch valve in the VB)I quit trying to repair them. Mopar valve bodies have dropped down in price. And I think there is a reman avail. IMO - Put a valve body and save the headaches How funny you shouldpost this. I JUST hung up with my uncle who owns Keller Motors in Perryville MO. He told me their policy on the P1776 error is to replace the valve body and solenoid pack as a unit and only use NEW parts. He was reading to me from an on-line Chrysler repair source, I dunno what it was, but it stated only to put in new parts because often reman solenoids have the same problem. That dealership experience with only installing the solenoid pack or the VB is that half the time, it will need the other part. So now for $650, they put in both. I am going to read my manual and if this is straight forward, I will be doing it this weekend. Any pointers? I'm assuming it is a drop the pan and drop the VB and Solenoid pack as a group and swap it out. No special tools or settings required. Parts shopping now. No matter how responsible he may seem, never give your gun to a monkey! 1970 Coronet Vert 1972 Charger 1974 Satellite Sebring Plus Sundance 2001 Ram 4x4 2002 Intrepid 2006 300C

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: 70Coronet500Vert] #53781 02/06/08 09:56 PM 02/06/08 09:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 535 Ohio racerAL mopar
racerAL mopar Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 535 Ohio	I don't think u can still get the V/B new,that part # supercedes (sp) to a re-man #,the only way to get it is a re-man #.the re-man V/B is readily available and is around $350.00.also,IMHO...the V/B is most likely your issue and not the solenoid.in my experience w/ LH cars that have this code (p1776) is caused by a contaminated V/B.normaly caused by ,dirt in the fluid gets into the V/B and locks that switch valve in the V/B, as earlier stated....hope this helped...keep us informed on how it goes...good luck ........Alan -1967 Plymouth Satellite #3555 446 cid on E-85 best 1/4 et 10.577 @ 127.58 best 1/8 et 6.722 @ 100.68 best 60ft. 1.419

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: racerAL] #53782 02/07/08 08:50 AM 02/07/08 08:50 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO 70Coronet500Vert OP master
70Coronet500Vert OP master Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO	Quote: I don't think u can still get the V/B new,that part # supercedes (sp) to a re-man #,the only way to get it is a re-man #.the re-man V/B is readily available and is around $350.00.also,IMHO...the V/B is most likely your issue and not the solenoid.in my experience w/ LH cars that have this code (p1776) is caused by a contaminated V/B.normaly caused by ,dirt in the fluid gets into the V/B and locks that switch valve in the V/B, as earlier stated....hope this helped...keep us informed on how it goes...good luck ........Alan I got a quote for $387. It is the combined package with the solenoid pack and the valve body. Does not look too hard. I should be doing this Saturday. I am going to do the whole thing. 5 new quarts of ATF4, filter, valvebody. Supposed to be 19 degrees, so that is right on par with this kind of repair. The only thing better would be if the truck needs a water pump, oh wait, it smells like it does...... Just for fun and for the folks at dodgeintrepid.net, i'm gonna photo as I go. I could post the pics here if anyone is interested. Hopefully by Sat afternoon, it'll back on the road. No matter how responsible he may seem, never give your gun to a monkey! 1970 Coronet Vert 1972 Charger 1974 Satellite Sebring Plus Sundance 2001 Ram 4x4 2002 Intrepid 2006 300C

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: 70Coronet500Vert] #53783 02/07/08 10:17 AM 02/07/08 10:17 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO 70Coronet500Vert OP master
70Coronet500Vert OP master Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO	To any of you techs who have done this. Is the "Quick Learn" procedure required as the book states, after I have replaced the VB? reason I ask is, I don't have a DRB tool. The book says to do it. No matter how responsible he may seem, never give your gun to a monkey! 1970 Coronet Vert 1972 Charger 1974 Satellite Sebring Plus Sundance 2001 Ram 4x4 2002 Intrepid 2006 300C

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: 70Coronet500Vert] #53784 02/07/08 05:19 PM 02/07/08 05:19 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,442 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,442 It's a dry heat	quick learn should be done, If not it will take a while for the TCM to relearn clutch fill volumnes/ Thus shift kinda odd compared to what your used to. Personally I've always had access to a DRB so I've never really tried to run it without it. just an FYI - Cut the filter open when you get it out and ck for clutch debris in it. If there is , plan on an overhaul SOON

Re: Ah nutz. Wife called. '02 Intrepid in Limp mode [Re: gtx6970] #53785 02/08/08 08:10 AM 02/08/08 08:10 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO 70Coronet500Vert OP master
70Coronet500Vert OP master Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,430 St Charles MO	Quote: quick learn should be done, If not it will take a while for the TCM to relearn clutch fill volumnes/ Thus shift kinda odd compared to what your used to. Personally I've always had access to a DRB so I've never really tried to run it without it. just an FYI - Cut the filter open when you get it out and ck for clutch debris in it. If there is , plan on an overhaul SOON UGH I don't want to hear that kind of trouble! No matter how responsible he may seem, never give your gun to a monkey! 1970 Coronet Vert 1972 Charger 1974 Satellite Sebring Plus Sundance 2001 Ram 4x4 2002 Intrepid 2006 300C

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