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Pertronix coil problems? Anyone else? #523865
11/12/09 01:20 AM
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Well just found out that my pertronix flamethrower II coil failed on me after only 700 miles and 6 months of use (the warrantee is 90 days). Just wondering if this is just another fine example of my lousy luck or if they actually fail often? If they are problematic what are my options for replacement with the Ignitor 2 ignition system and no ballast resistor?

Re: Pertronix coil problems? Anyone else? [Re: Dusted_Ya] #523866
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I had a problems with thier module after 3wks of use..

Re: Pertronix coil problems? Anyone else? [Re: Dakota_Don] #523867
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uhm! I got the chrome flame thrower and points conversion...been in 3 diff dizzys and 4 diif cars with that same unit

been 9 yrs..never skiped a beat


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have had the Ignitor II and flame thrower coil on my newport since 2005, 2 trips to nats and 1 to carlisle. no problems.

Re: Pertronix coil problems? Anyone else? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #523869
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I had it in my AAR 'Cuda several years ago when I owned it. It lasted one year. I was backing the car out to go for a ride and when I got out to close the garage door the car stalled. The next time the car would run was when I reinstalled the the points in the distributor. Was mine defective? Who knows, but I never bought another one for fear of it dying on the road. Rob


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Re: Pertronix coil problems? Anyone else? [Re: FJ6AAR] #523870
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Did you, by chance, have it hooked up to a full 12v source? if so, thats why it burned up. Coil needs to be hooked to the down side of the resistor.


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Re: Pertronix coil problems? Anyone else? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #523871
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uhm! I got the chrome flame thrower and points conversion...been in 3 diff dizzys and 4 diif cars with that same unit

been 9 yrs..never skiped a beat






here's the rub , 9 years ago the parts were made in USA , now it's offshore crap , I ordered a flamethrower coil 3 years ago to go with the dual point pickup , when i saw where it was made i RETURNED it to summit , the one I bought back around 99 was made in USA .

to the OP , if it's an offshore part you know why it failed ...

Re: Pertronix coil problems? Anyone else? [Re: JohnRR] #523872
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here's the rub , 9 years ago the parts were made in USA , now it's offshore crap. to the OP , if it's an offshore part you know why it failed ...


I couldn't agree more


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Re: Pertronix coil problems? Anyone else? [Re: StealthWedge67] #523873
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Did you, by chance, have it hooked up to a full 12v source? if so, thats why it burned up. Coil needs to be hooked to the down side of the resistor.




I believe that's incorrect. Their coils are internally resisted. If you run a BR and their coil you'll end up having really low voltage (4-5V) at the coil. For example, I had their .6 Ohm, FT II coil on my car wired downside of the BR. When I did a loaded voltage test (instructions available from Pertronix) I found I only had 4.6V available at the coil in the run position. Merely using a meter at the posts of the coil is not the correct method to check voltage at the coil.

I think you can still go to Pertronix website and under "troubleshooting" find the sheet to do the test. I'll try to scan and upload a copy anyway.


Grounds:

Ignitor “MUST” be grounded properly.
Make sure that your breaker plate is grounded to the distributor housing
Re-attach original ground strap from breaker plate to distributor housing, if equipped.
Distributor Housing needs to be grounded to engine or intake.
Check contact surface area of distributor “Hold Down Bracket” for proper ground.
Try running a jumper wire from the Ignitor™ plate to battery negative.

Loaded voltage test:
Do not disconnect wires from ignition coil.
Use jumper wire (With alligator clips on both ends) [10 ga. advised]
Connect jumper wire from negative (-) side of coil to a good engine ground.
Connect volt meter red lead to positive (+) side of coil and black lead to engine ground.
If using a ballast resister check both terminals

See chart above for specifications.
Note: Low voltage can be caused by poor connections, poor contacts in the ignition switch, and or a resistor wire in the wiring harness (Factory Installed)


IGNITION COIL TEST & SPECIFICATIONS

6 Volt System with Ignitor 1
12 Volt System with Ignitor 1


When using the Ignitor 2 any coil 0.45 ohms or greater will work on all engines
Remove all electrical wiring from ignition coil (coil must be tested by itself).
Connect the red ohm meter lead to the positive (+) side of the coil.
Connect the black ohm meter lead to the negative side of the coil.
Check ohm meter for proper coil resistance and make sure that that it meets our minimum specifications or an external resistor must be added.
Note: Do Not Remove Ballast Resistor or Resistor Wire when using a coil that does not meet our minimum ohm specifications (Permanent damage to IgniTor will occur).

OTHER CHECKS

Check sticker on the backside of module "Ignitor by PerTronix" If the Sticker is shriveled up, wrinkled, cracked, or if you see any burn marks on that side of module the unit over heated and failed for various reasons.
If you’re using Part #1281 or 91281 (only), make sure that module and magnet sleeve are level with each other on top.
Must use suppression core wires.

6 &12 VOLT NEGATIVE GROUND TESTS
(DO NOT LEAVE IGNITION SWITCH ON WITH ENGINE OFF - IGNITOR WILL OVERHEAT AND FAIL)

Re: Pertronix coil problems? Anyone else? [Re: 64Post] #523874
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built in resister

I used #10 wire in the shell of the stock BR with the end solderd on to the wire to get the full 12 volts

I had it thru the BR and got around 4 volts but it ran ok for the first few days

then got the full 12 volts to it and could feel it in seat when driving

your right,I didnt think about off shore parts

I did have trouble once with a stock rotor button not fitting all that good and replaced iit with another one from pertronix

its been in there about 6 yrs..

been looking at the billet ready to plug and play dizzy they have ..but not sure myself,seems I have read some comments both ways on it working right


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Re: Pertronix coil problems? Anyone else? [Re: JohnRR] #523875
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uhm! I got the chrome flame thrower and points conversion...been in 3 diff dizzys and 4 diif cars with that same unit

been 9 yrs..never skiped a beat






here's the rub , 9 years ago the parts were made in USA , now it's offshore crap , I ordered a flamethrower coil 3 years ago to go with the dual point pickup , when i saw where it was made i RETURNED it to summit , the one I bought back around 99 was made in USA .

to the OP , if it's an offshore part you know why it failed ...




we have a winna...

Petronix used to make GREAT stuff. Been a few years but if they are China crap, then they are China crap. No telling how long a part will last from there, if it works at all.


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