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power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car #519853
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what do you guys think i have two powerglides in my garage that i bought when i was building a roadster. i have since sold the roadster and still have the glides. any one here run a glide? these are stock casting chevy housings. should i keep them to put in my car or sell them?

Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: modified1090] #519854
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They work great, although the glide may not be optimal for a car that heavy it will work and be just as or more consistent than a torque flite.
They are simple and cheap to build. And since you have all the parts, and converter. I would use what i had, cause buying every thing is expensive.


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Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: Bob_Coomer] #519855
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I run a glide in my car.

Its 3100LB BB A body and I figure the glide is about a tenth slow on the 60 ft but it never not once so much as spun 1 hundredth off on the 60 ft all year long. Not once.

Great for bracket racing and consistency, but not so much if you like to run a number.


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Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: modified1090] #519856
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I've run the Glide in my car for over 15 years now. The car weighed about 3100 when I first put it in. It ran around 10.50 back then. I've lightened the car and added a bunch of power over the years and had good luck with the whole combination. HOWEVER, I've never run the stock planetary or input shaft. I think that would be asking a lot in your car but if you have the parts and don't worry too much about breakage go for it. It'll cost quite a bit for adapters, driveshaft etc. so do your homework on the overall cost.

Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: sg66mopar] #519857
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I've run the Glide in my car for over 15 years now. The car weighed about 3100 when I first put it in. It ran around 10.50 back then. I've lightened the car and added a bunch of power over the years and had good luck with the whole combination. HOWEVER, I've never run the stock planetary or input shaft. I think that would be asking a lot in your car but if you have the parts and don't worry too much about breakage go for it. It'll cost quite a bit for adapters, driveshaft etc. so do your homework on the overall cost.




The 1.76 stock gear set is a proven strong piece.
I have first hand experience with them in cars making good power.
Stock case, stock gear set transbrake launches approaching one second flat in short times.
These werent Pro built trans either...built by yours truly..


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Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: Bob_Coomer] #519858
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i just put one in my 3000lb 65 coronet,went with a little more stall than i had with the 727,60 foots the same was running 10.70s before ran 10.70s at tulsa sat with 20 mph cross wind.its gona take a little getting use to but i think it will be more consistant.

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ptc did my converter,did just what he said it would.

Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: sam64] #519861
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I've been 9.94 @ 133 with a stock cased Powerglide, and stock 1.76 gear set in the '64 Dodge. Never had a problem and the car is over 3200 with me in it.

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Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: Bob_Coomer] #519862
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no i don't have anything other than the glide. no converter or adapters.

what have you guys spent putting these trans in the car..... eveything from converters and bell housings to crossmembers and driveshafts

Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: moparacer] #519863
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Quote:

I run a glide in my car.

Its 3100LB BB A body and I figure the glide is about a tenth slow on the 60 ft but it never not once so much as spun 1 hundredth off on the 60 ft all year long. Not once.

Great for bracket racing and consistency, but not so much if you like to run a number.



If you love to go rounds, and your main thrill is a win, then the glide rules in most apps. If you want the most fun, go torqueflite. The extra gearing at launch will feel better, and usually is faster in the 60 ft provided you are in a fairly heavy car (2800+) and are not overpowering the tires too much. I run a torqueflite, but realize at a certain torque level it gets too tough to hook up with all that gear. I am close, but boy, is it fun!!


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Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: gregsdart] #519864
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Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: modified1090] #519865
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My adapter kit was around $400 in about 94 or 95. That includes the motor to tans. adapter, flex plate and crank adapter.

I spent around $300 on a driveshaft with the correct yoke.

My B&M shifter for the Glide was around $200 with the heavy duty cable.

My converters back then were about $500 each but now I'm paying $1100 each.

Make sure to check your cases for cracks in the belhousing area. They do break there.

If you run motor plates front and rear you need to have struts on the motor on both sides to keep the engine from moving back or twisting on launch. That contributes to the case cracking.

Also, you'll need to notch out the Glide case for starter nose clearance and you won't use all the bell housing holes because the starter interfers.

Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: sg66mopar] #519866
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My Valiant was 3470 with me in it. Ran a glide behind the 511" stock block B1 motor. Car went best of 9.02 at 149 and change on motor with a best 60' of 1.25 on a true 10.5" tire. Had no trans issues at all with it. The Cuda runs a glide as well and weighs 2900+-lbs. I've been low 8's at almost 170 with it behind my current B1 on motor only of course.


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Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: Al_Alguire] #519867
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I wouldn't buy the plate adapter, I would buy the Ultra-bell bell housing, we had the plate and now it's just used as a mid-plate.

Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: Dodgeman67] #519868
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Oh yeah. I use a TCI adapter, it acts as a midplate as well, and run a standard Chevy Ultrabell. The down side, Mopar starters require some clearancing of the bell, so it will not be able to be recerted. But for the price of shipping both ways, and the recert cost it is not much difference to buy a new one every 5 years. Juat a waste of good aluminum. I have a couple of them here.


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Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: gregsdart] #519869
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I run a glide in my car.

Its 3100LB BB A body and I figure the glide is about a tenth slow on the 60 ft but it never not once so much as spun 1 hundredth off on the 60 ft all year long. Not once.

Great for bracket racing and consistency, but not so much if you like to run a number.



If you love to go rounds, and your main thrill is a win, then the glide rules in most apps. If you want the most fun, go torqueflite. The extra gearing at launch will feel better, and usually is faster in the 60 ft provided you are in a fairly heavy car (2800+) and are not overpowering the tires too much. I run a torqueflite, but realize at a certain torque level it gets too tough to hook up with all that gear. I am close, but boy, is it fun!!


A lot of people say that about 60fts Greg, but I don't agree. At your power level, with the right converter, I would pretty much bet the farm, that your car would 60ft a good bit better with a glide. In my own experiences, a car with a lot of power, becomes an animal on the line, when you go from a 3 speed to a glide. Instead of spinning the motor with all that gear multiplication, the torque actually makes the converter "work" and the wheel speed is just crazy. In high HP cars, the "hot ticket" right now, is the "Turbo-glide". Basically a turbo 400, that you can leave in second gear with. The common gear is a 1.55 low.

Monte

Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: Monte_Smith] #519870
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Monte, I get what you are saying, maybe I have crossed the line where I have more torque than will work with the TF. Wished I had the budget to try it out. A friends 1100 hp Daytona has enough trouble putting it all to the ground with the glide, that got my attention.


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Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: gregsdart] #519871
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Monte.... bruno's trans are the bomb in those applications. I see many in top sportsman etc.

My buddy and his 632, it had a very narrow powerband, he went from the glide to a bruno-lenco set up in 3 speed with a nice easy first gear and the car responded very well. Like 2800lb bracket car, raced every week going 6.9s

Powerglide is the winningest bracket racing trans for a reason. If the TF was the hot ticket, GM guys would be running them, like we are running glides.

Re: power glide behind a 440 in a 3200lb car [Re: Garceau] #519872
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There are some apps where a 2.45 or lower first gear is still needed. I am not saying EVERY car needs a glide, but the vast majority, with substantial power and especially torque, will benefit from the tall first gear in the glide, regardless of the weight of the car.

Yes, the Bruno/Lenco is the ideal setup, but some classes don't allow that, plus those are pricey, so the "turbo-glide" is getting popular. We want to try one with a 1.55 low and put a 4.10 rear in the car, so that it will make rpm after the shift. We have to run a 3.40 gear now, to keep the wheel speed in check to get down on radials and the car has a hard time making rpm in high, dragging that gear.

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