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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: bigtimeauto] #518079
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I only run 18* or 24* max if i want to get after it. whats up with that 34*?



i lost too much HP with less.

Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: bigtimeauto] #518080
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I only run 18* or 24* max if i want to get after it. whats up with that 34*?





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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: blownzoom440] #518081
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Roots on e85, anyone?

The ethanol noticeably cools the intake charge, at least my buddys roots case "feels" considerably cooler to the touch...I can't seem to find anyone who knows exactly what the difference is in charge cooling between gas and e85.

Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: ZIPPY] #518082
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i would have to believe the e85 will be better than pump gas


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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: blownzoom440] #518083
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I only run 18* or 24* max if i want to get after it. whats up with that 34*?



i lost too much HP with less.




What is your initial * and how much do you pull out per pound of boost?

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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: tilt] #518084
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me? 36* digital 7


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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: bigtimeauto] #518085
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I only run 18* or 24* max if i want to get after it. whats up with that 34*?




Here is what my instructions say that came with it:

Timing: Mechanical advance distributor recommended! 16-22 degrees initial crank timing with total of 32-36 degrees all in by 2500 rpm. These timing recommendations are suggested for a low compression, street driven engine running on premium, 92 octane, leaded or unleaded pump gas.

Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: 62SAVOY] #518086
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I only run 18* or 24* max if i want to get after it. whats up with that 34*?




Here is what my instructions say that came with it:

Timing: Mechanical advance distributor recommended! 16-22 degrees initial crank timing with total of 32-36 degrees all in by 2500 rpm. These timing recommendations are suggested for a low compression, street driven engine running on premium, 92 octane, leaded or unleaded pump gas.




with boost?


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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: bigtimeauto] #518087
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me? 36* digital 7




No.. metal storm, just curious is all.
I run 38* initial and have the BS3 pull back to 20* at 15 psi under load.


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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: tilt] #518088
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me? 36* digital 7




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I run 38* initial and have the BS3 pull back to 20* at 15 psi under load.




thats ok formaking power but for drag racing you need more flexability ie,starting line retard


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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: 62SAVOY] #518089
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My lastest and best 11.08 pass was with 18*s of timing at wot. No intercooler or aftercooler, just using W/M for now. I'd like to bump the timing to 21*s and put this fat azz truck of mine into the 10's.


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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: bigtimeauto] #518090
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Pulling the power back in essence with digital box for traction.


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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: tilt] #518091
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Pulling the power back in essence with digital box for traction.




correct, i leave on 4* and ramp to the 18* in 2.5 sec.true 10.5 tire


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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: bigtimeauto] #518092
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Pulling the power back in essence with digital box for traction.




correct, i leave on 4* and ramp to the 18* in 2.5 sec.true 10.5 tire




Hang on for the ride after the 2 sec mark.


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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: tilt] #518093
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Pulling the power back in essence with digital box for traction.




correct, i leave on 4* and ramp to the 18* in 2.5 sec.true 10.5 tire




Hang on for the ride after the 2 sec mark.




been 174 so far


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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: bigtimeauto] #518094
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Pulling the power back in essence with digital box for traction.




correct, i leave on 4* and ramp to the 18* in 2.5 sec.true 10.5 tire




Hang on for the ride after the 2 sec mark.




been 174 so far



Ya Daddy !

Not to highjack the thread but it looks like the FI system i have can do the timing pullback.

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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: tilt] #518095
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cool,that and a boost controller and your good. unless thats built in also


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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: bigtimeauto] #518096
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It has that capability just need the solinoids from a Gran National or turbo T/A.

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I only run 18* or 24* max if i want to get after it. whats up with that 34*?



i lost too much HP with less.




What is your initial * and how much do you pull out per pound of boost?



i used 16 at idle and 34*in at 2K,no boost retard.i put a roller in it and dyno'd it[video in sig]but with only 30* locked.no problems starting at all.7AL-2.i had 10%OD on the blower.with bigger carbs now i run 10%UD and went 3mph faster,.25 quicker.

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Re: BENCH RACING: 8-71 V.S. Procharger? [Re: blownzoom440] #518098
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I only run 18* or 24* max if i want to get after it. whats up with that 34*?



i lost too much HP with less.




What is your initial * and how much do you pull out per pound of boost?



i used 16 at idle and 34*in at 2K,no boost retard.i put a roller in it and dyno'd it[video in sig]but with only 30* locked.no problems starting at all.7AL-2.i had 10%OD on the blower.with bigger carbs now i run 10%UD and went 3mph faster,.25 quicker.




Have you tried a BTM box??
Just curious to see if it picks up even more.


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