retro fitting seats
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Has anybody retrofitted late model bucket seats into their early B body? I'd sure like to be able to use the later integrated restraint systems in my '65. I'd like to stay away from as much computer and sensor interfacing as possible. Pictures and descriptions would sure help.
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Re: retro fitting seats
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12/26/09 11:41 PM
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I dont have any of the answers that you are looking for, but I am in the same boat. I have a 71 challenger that I would like to be able to drive long distances, but my butt dont like the old seats near as much as the new ones. There is a post on here right now where a guy used seats out of a 96 or 97 sebring convertible. It has the sholder belts built into the seats. There is an in-depth attachment that shows the whole purchace and install procedure, that I found very interesting. I would realy like to finde a good looking, comfortable, easy to install, and readily available seat to install in my chally. I will be watching your post for any helpful info. Using new seats in an old car is only foolish if you have a numbers matching car, that is not my plan. I build mine to fit what I want, and then I drive them, some times I even drive them like I stole them. Good luck finding your answers.
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Re: retro fitting seats
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12/26/09 11:47 PM
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I've used Scat/ProCar Rally seats before and they were very comfortable As for late model seats...there has been a few threads here before on it. Off hand, DirectSubjection used later model Jag seats in his Duster and was real happy with them...
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Re: retro fitting seats
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12/27/09 01:01 AM
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I've used Scat/ProCar Rally seats before and they were very comfortable
As for late model seats...there has been a few threads here before on it. Off hand, DirectSubjection used later model Jag seats in his Duster and was real happy with them...
I use the Scat seat too in my Dart. And I use early 90's Toyota Celica seats in my Barracuda.
But neither have integrated shoulder belts. I believe a lot of convertible applications have intergal shoulder belts in the seats.
I've got some pictures of a 68 Barracuda with BMW seats I thought looked real nice and blended in well. But they didn't have intergal shoulder belts.
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Re: retro fitting seats
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12/27/09 02:59 AM
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Lincoln LS seats bought new on eBay. I had to modify/fabricate the seats floor mount brackets to fit the 66 Coronet floor.
Those look pretty good from that veiw...
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Re: retro fitting seats
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12/27/09 04:24 AM
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Lincoln LS seats bought new on eBay. I had to modify/fabricate the seats floor mount brackets to fit the 66 Coronet floor.
Nice Mopar Action issue to have handy. I think I've about worn that issue out over the years.
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Re: retro fitting seats
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12/27/09 02:22 PM
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Do the Lincoln seats have the restraint system built in?
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Re: retro fitting seats
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12/27/09 02:45 PM
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Do the Lincoln seats have the restraint system built in?
If you mean seat belts, yes. Because the belts are not anchored to the floor you have to be VERY careful that any welds are done right or the seat could come loose in an accident. That would be deadly. If you mean side air bags, they were removed before shipping to me. There is a cover that snaps in on the lower rear hole you see in the picture.
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Re: retro fitting seats
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12/27/09 03:20 PM
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Do the Lincoln seats have the restraint system built in?
If you mean seat belts, yes. Because the belts are not anchored to the floor you have to be VERY careful that any welds are done right or the seat could come loose in an accident. That would be deadly. If you mean side air bags, they were removed before shipping to me. There is a cover that snaps in on the lower rear hole you see in the picture.
I don't see the belts in that pic. is it me?
I just picked up sebring convert seats this morning. took an hour to get them out. got them from a 98. they are white, so I will have to dye them. I put up a thread asking about the module that controls the seat belt restraint solenoids and the response wasn't bad at all. one guy didn't think it was a great idea fiddling with the module in a car other than what it was made for, but he was just saying he didn't think it was a great idea, which is fine. he was nice about it.
I wish I could find the thread of the guy who did a detailed install with pics though, maybe I didn't search right.
btw, I posted these questions i had on moparchat and a tech there said that the sebring seats also have an inertia lock mechanism that is mechanical and built into the seat. linky:
http://www.moparchat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118217
the corvair kid website references this and says that the electronics are for the solenoid to lock in the seats tighter because that car has airbags.
http://www.corvairkid.com/sebring.htm
Here is my moparts thread:
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post5691436
here is a thread with pics from abodies only
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=61269&highlight=sebring
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Re: retro fitting seats
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12/27/09 03:39 PM
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Seabring seats are the only ones I have seen with a really good writeup. Mostly because they had a seperate computer to control the seats.
There are several other integrated belt seats, like trucks and such, but again , no good info on how to get the belts to work right.
For the early b's, the seats I have heard were a bolt in were the mbody seats. you would need to find an early 2 door so the seat moves up, and you would still be stuck with just lap belts, or you could convert to a 3 point since you have a roof.
For me I have to decide if it is worth the hassle to retro the seabring seats or go with an early m, since I don't have a roof.
I have also thought about the lebaron verts where the added something to the pillar but that seemed too complicated and would not look as clean.
dkn1997- got the email with the brackets, and I would not use those. A welder buddy pointed out how they would just collaps on them selves forward and just shove you into the dash. You need front to back brackets not left to right.
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Re: retro fitting seats
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12/27/09 04:25 PM
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hey andrew I wasn't crazy about it either. one obastacle is that the on my stock seats, the arrangement of bolt holes is even as far as I could tell @14" apart (side to side) and @10 3/4" (back to front) makes a near perfect rectangle
the sebring seats have the front brackets equal @18.5" apart (side to side)but the rears are staggared (front to back)
unlike my charger floor which is mostly flat for arguments sake, on the sebring the floor is uneven and stamped out so that the seat tracks sort of wrap around the bumps in the floor.
I want to make up some brackets that will essentially add the "bumps" to my floor bolted through the stock seat holes (reinforced from under) and allow the sebring seats to bolt right in without bending or cutting anything on them.
I can't weld, but i may mock it up using mdf and have my friend weld it up for me. I think if it's thought out, it may be simple..
I don't know if I have to make an assembly that's one huge piece or If I can use a piece for outboard track then anothr for the inboard on each side.
i'd also add that my stock seat cushion is roughly 11" off the floor in the front. the sebring is @8" so there is room to build up and I just looked at those pics again, and it really does make more sense to go front to back with the adapters you make, not side to side...I have visions of that folding like a pretzel...
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Re: retro fitting seats
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12/27/09 09:53 PM
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Make sure you check the height of the seat bottom. I think that was the main issue with the new challenger seats, they put your butt up too high in most cars. You don't want to raise the seating position at all, it makes the car feel a lot different and not in a good way.
I see...that would no be good. although it looks like these need to be raised. they are already a good 3" lower than my OE seats. I have to mock them up with blocks or something and hook power up and see where they are good.
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