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Ok whats the deal on all these nascar,P/S truck motors? #509360
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is there a place to get them?
they are popping up in everything....
ive seen parts here and there..
but whats the deal on engines...?

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Re: Ok whats the deal on all these nascar,P/S truck mot [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #509361
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I bought mine on racing junk

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What is fair coin? $$
and how complete are they?
most of you guys are just swapping cams?
and getting some type of adapter for a converter?
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Re: Ok whats the deal on all these nascar,P/S truck mot [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #509363
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I bought mine a year ago, it came from Buffalo, and it came as yoou see inda pics. 10K for 860 hp, not bad. Their going for less money now.

Re: Ok whats the deal on all these nascar,P/S truck mot [Re: B1KILLER] #509364
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3K front end crank hub trans plate bobs profab make all the parts you need .i never changed cams in my motor still have been 9.42

Re: Ok whats the deal on all these nascar,P/S truck mot [Re: scottb] #509365
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I'd like to see a very detailed list of what all it would actually take to make this swap on a torsion bar car. I've considered selling my whole 500" motor and tranny turn key to go this route. Do these engines come turnkey?

I believe I'd need a new motor plate, tranny adapter and a 904 tranny and converter. Probably a set of custom headers. Oil pan?
What else?


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Re: Ok whats the deal on all these nascar,P/S truck mot [Re: scottb] #509366
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3K front end crank hub trans plate bobs profab make all the parts you need .i never changed cams in my motor still have been 9.42




Bob, is the man, he fabricating my stuff
Oh it also came with an intake that has been ported., not seen in pics

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I'd like to see a very detailed list of what all it would actually take to make this swap on a torsion bar car. I've considered selling my whole 500" motor and tranny turn key to go this route. Do these engines come turnkey?

I believe I'd need a new motor plate, tranny adapter and a 904 tranny and converter. Probably a set of custom headers. Oil pan?
What else?




Well Its pretty much turn key, when I bought mine it was just freshen up, and dyno.With a 750 produced 860 hp @ 9600 RPM

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The motor will not work with rear steer thats why I said 3k front end 1k oil tanks lines trans plate 600 crank hub 150 to 250 custom headers 1k that will get you going down the track

Re: Ok whats the deal on all these nascar,P/S truck mot [Re: scottb] #509369
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The motor will not work with rear steer thats why I said 3k front end 1k oil tanks lines trans plate 600 crank hub 150 to 250 custom headers 1k that will get you going down the track




So another 5-6K to make this a workable package - any possibility to fabbing up a wet sump rear steer pan for them?

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You would have more in making the pan then what its worth plus I dont know if you can make that block work in a wet sump the block is not like a R3 block

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I bought mine a year ago, it came from Buffalo, and it came as yoou see inda pics. 10K for 860 hp, not bad. Their going for less money now.




Looks like one of Ritters engines


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The motor will not work with rear steer thats why I said 3k front end 1k oil tanks lines trans plate 600 crank hub 150 to 250 custom headers 1k that will get you going down the track




So another 5-6K to make this a workable package - any possibility to fabbing up a wet sump rear steer pan for them?




These engines will not work with a wet sump. Rear steer and stock K frame are not compatible with this engine. tubular K frame and front steer required.

One of my nascar connections is selling complete engines minus the intake for 7k.... Wish I could have gotten a deal like this back in the day

I also made my plate and drew it up on solid works. Now that I know it works and can show it works I will have a few extra made WITH crank spacer and can utilize stock mini starter unlike another vendor out there selling a POS adapter plate (just so you guys know I'm NOT referring to BondoBob) My plate is also compatible with auto or stick bellhousings...


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Re: Ok whats the deal on all these nascar,P/S truck mot [Re: DemonDust] #509373
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Ok Guys, now that you have my gray matter churning and thinking this is a viable option. I thank you but my wallet might be at you guys.

I am to assume a detailed list of needed parts would be...

Motor plate
trans plate/adaptor
oil pan
headers
crank hub

what else am I missing? this is assuming you have a carb to oil pan motor. Also no need to change the pan in you have a tube car correct?

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In a tube car you do not have to change the pan the motors are drysump motors only thats why on a k member car you have to run a front steer and a motor plate Bobs pro fab make the best plate out there for sale bar none Ive seen the others out there and do not compare to Bobs headers will be custom made

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Scott thanks for the info.

What trans? can an adaptor plate be made to still run a BB 727 or am I hosed and need to run a 906?

As for the headers I have some good header guys here in the Detroit area.

But still good to know Bob is there just in case.

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You would have to call Bob but i know his plate is made for 727&904 if you need some parts pm I have a good hook up

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What trans? can an adaptor plate be made to still run a BB 727 or am I hosed and need to run a 906?








Any SB bell will fit.

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Re: Ok whats the deal on all these nascar,P/S truck mot [Re: DemonDust] #509378
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What trans? can an adaptor plate be made to still run a BB 727 or am I hosed and need to run a 906?








Any SB bell will fit.





so i understand..?
the block accepts smallblock bellhousings?

or the rear M/plate is set up for sb bell housing?

and the crank spacer is for t/converter right?

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will the compression they utilise ..handle boost?
i am thinking...stratospheric numbers with boost.
hell ..i dont have a car that could handle it.
but i just had to ask....
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