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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: sixpakdodge] #506057
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Hmm. What color? Are you sure it wasn't a '66?


Dark blue and it might have been 1966. It's been 43 years +/- since I've seen the car but it was definately a sleeper.

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #506058
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Hmm. What color? Are you sure it wasn't a '66?


Dark blue and it might have been 1966. It's been 43 years +/- since I've seen the car but it was definately a sleeper.




Not a factory Hemi.

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: sixpakdodge] #506059
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Hmm. What color? Are you sure it wasn't a '66?


Dark blue and it might have been 1966. It's been 43 years +/- since I've seen the car but it was definately a sleeper.




Not a factory Hemi.


I believe it was, but then again I was 16 or 17 years old at the time but I was sure Chrysler produced a very small number of 4 door Hemi cars and Joe had one. Maybe he did the swap himself but I don't remember him saying so but then again I don't remember what I ate for dinner last night.

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: bigsexy440] #506060
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So I am a young guy (funny to say that since I am 30) but Street Racing has been pretty much out of vogue in my driving days.

I love reading this stuff, because it makes me think about the nights when I was a kid standing around the shop with my dad and his buddies and they would be telling stories like this.

I just want to make a note about "idiot" kids today racing in town and "why the HECK dont they just go out in the country like we did???" from older guys like my dad, and most of you guys.

And without making excuses for them, because alot really are idiots, but the whole "going out in the country" part is pracically nonexistant anymore.

Back in the 60s and 70s you guys could go find a perfectly straight road in the middle of nowhere less than 5 miles out of town! Now adays, it takes dang near 30 minutes to just get out of a normal sized town, and then just TRY and find an empty road!




It all depends on the crowd, i grew up around street racing and ill always be around it. I hang out with alot of the older guys that i met in highschool and they all build and street race old cars. We have a few roads that are always vacant with a start line and another line at exactly 1320 ft. Its common to still find open headers, slicks, a bottle in the trunk and some good old VHT traction compound. I dont street race but i enjoy watching it. Not all kids are dumb about street racing, some of us still do it like the old days

Thanks for sharing all of the stories, it makes me wish i was around back then for all of it.

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #506061
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Hmm. What color? Are you sure it wasn't a '66?


Dark blue and it might have been 1966. It's been 43 years +/- since I've seen the car but it was definately a sleeper.




Not a factory Hemi.


I believe it was, but then again I was 16 or 17 years old at the time but I was sure Chrysler produced a very small number of 4 door Hemi cars and Joe had one. Maybe he did the swap himself but I don't remember him saying so but then again I don't remember what I ate for dinner last night.




3 Hemi Coronets; white, red, and tan. 1 Satellite, bluish-gray.

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #506062
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Not a factory Hemi.


I believe it was, but then again I was 16 or 17 years old at the time but I was sure Chrysler produced a very small number of 4 door Hemi cars and Joe had one. Maybe he did the swap himself but I don't remember him saying so but then again I don't remember what I ate for dinner last night.


I just Googled 4 door Hemi Coronet and found that Chrysler did produce some of these these cars in 1966. Glad part of my memory is still intact!

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: sixpakdodge] #506063
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3 Hemi Coronets; white, red, and tan. 1 Satellite, bluish-gray.


That's all? Just 3? Imagine what those are worth...WOW.
So maybe Joe did do heart surgery but it still impressed me. Thanks for the info on the number of cars produced. I read where at least 1 was produced for the FBI. Ain't getting away from those guys.

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #506064
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3 Hemi Coronets; white, red, and tan. 1 Satellite, bluish-gray.


That's all? Just 3? Imagine what those are worth...WOW.
So maybe Joe did do heart surgery but it still impressed me. Thanks for the info on the number of cars produced. I read where at least 1 was produced for the FBI. Ain't getting away from those guys.




Rare doesn't always mean desirable. The white Coronet was built for the Feds. It's in Garlits' Museum.

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: sixpakdodge] #506065
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PDs always have weird cars ordered or made availible to them for a variety of reasons. Personally, I believe there were more than 3 Hemi 4-doors built, as Suffolk County PD Hwy Patrol had more than that themselves. Grant it, it was 40+ years ago but my Dad had friends on there that frequently mentioned how they hoped they could get one for their shift or how some supervisor got one & they really didn't need a car like that. All the manufactureres did it back then so it shouldn't be a surprise & given Mopar's notorious reputation for erratic record keeping who can say with absolute certainty there WERE only 3 produced?

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: sixpakdodge] #506066
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3 Hemi Coronets; white, red, and tan. 1 Satellite, bluish-gray.


That's all? Just 3? Imagine what those are worth...WOW.
So maybe Joe did do heart surgery but it still impressed me. Thanks for the info on the number of cars produced. I read where at least 1 was produced for the FBI. Ain't getting away from those guys.




Rare doesn't always mean desirable. The white Coronet was built for the Feds. It's in Garlits' Museum.




red one was trying to be sold last summer, (dude wanted a million for it), and the 3rd is in Europe somewhere, (Finland maybe?)

guy that was selling the red one is a member on here iirc, he wanted to buy all 3 and have all of them, but Garlits said he'd never sell his.

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: plasticfantastic] #506067
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All these racing stories are really cool, and entertaining... (I'd like to hear the ones where people got beat too)

My dad did all this in the late 60's and 70's, even running his C/MP 69 Cuda on the streets, but growing up when I'd go to the cruise place in my 68 road runner (17 at the time) parked a couple down would be my dad in his 70 road runner. So I didnt participate.
Working at Milan, I didnt feel the need to street race, always knew someone was always faster, and looks never can tell how fast someone is. Besides when I was 16-17 all you saw on the streets were 5.0 mustangs and grand nationals.

Now a days I dont get the mentality of driving down the road at 60 mph, beep the horn 3 times and floor it... thats not a race to me, but then I practically grew up at Norwalk and Milan.


So, heres my best memory, In Toledo, on the corner of Alexis and Lewis, there was this cruise spot, and jsut a mile to the north was the Michigan border. If you were on Lewis heading towards toledo, the last stop light street is smith, and conviently enough its a quarter mile from Smith to the water treatment plant, and then after that into toledo, is enough shut down so that when you come into toledo, youre going the speed limit, or close to it.
so it wasnt uncommon to see people pull out followed by a bunch of others heading north into michigan.

the crowd i hung with was mostly mopars, my dads 6bbl road runner, my friend johns 69 Charger with a stout 440, Matts 70 coronet (with a 500 incher <- back when that was major) a couple grand nationals that ran exceptionally fast, and me with the stock 68 383 roadrunner. we always just hung out, we raced at Milan and afterwards go to this place, buy some drinks at McDonalds and hang out looking at all the cars,

one night some guy comes in with an Iroc Z Camaro, it was white, it had all the plastic body panels on it, big wing off the back, (and this is like 1988ish), T tops out, and hes looking for a race, so hes shooting off his mouth and so it gets around to us and he wants to race me, my dad says no way, so this guy says he'll race anyone there.
after a lot of BSing, it was arrainged that Matt would take him on with his 70 coronet.
its sad that memories fail, but I can remember 4 car lengths off the start and then Matt burping him all the way down Lewis as this Camaro was WFO and falling behind.

now adays when confronted to race on the streets, i reply with the typical, "ill race you at the track",
if they are faster, i'm ok with that, but I'll "11:50 them to death" and thats what racing is to me.

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: plasticfantastic] #506068
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It is about-time I add my $ 000000.03 here .....

NOTHING compared to the street-action in the Detroit and metro areas ... NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Racers would come from everywhere ... Chicago, Cleveland, NY etc ....and I think one time there was a guy who showed up from Dallas.

Thursday nite "action" ... would last until 5 or 6 am sometimes ... and at times guys would be still-around until 10 or 11 in the morning.

It is sometimes nice to be self-employed and have an open-schedule that would allow you this freedom.

...and I have not mentioned ANYTHING about the action on or around Telegraph, Woodward, Gratiot ..... in Flint, downriver, Pontiac, the actual downtown Detroit .. etc.

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: dOoC] #506069
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I was wondering when some more "Motown" folks were going to show up so what's your best street racing story?

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: dOoC] #506070
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NOTHING compared to the street-action in the Detroit and metro areas ... NOT EVEN CLOSE.
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i'd put south ave on staten island in the late 60's up against ANYPLACE...

but since i was not in detroit and u were not in new york.....

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: massdaytona] #506071
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NEVER heard of anyone going to NYC from Detroit for a little "action" ... but the opposite happened many times.

Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: plasticfantastic] #506072
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3 Hemi Coronets; white, red, and tan. 1 Satellite, bluish-gray.


That's all? Just 3? Imagine what those are worth...WOW.
So maybe Joe did do heart surgery but it still impressed me. Thanks for the info on the number of cars produced. I read where at least 1 was produced for the FBI. Ain't getting away from those guys.




Rare doesn't always mean desirable. The white Coronet was built for the Feds. It's in Garlits' Museum.




red one was trying to be sold last summer, (dude wanted a million for it), and the 3rd is in Europe somewhere, (Finland maybe?)

guy that was selling the red one is a member on here iirc, he wanted to buy all 3 and have all of them, but Garlits said he'd never sell his.




The breakdown of publicly known existing 4 door Hemi cars are:

3 66 Dodge Coronets: White/Red/Tan, all autos. William D. owns the Red and Tan cars- and the red one was on display at Carlisle in 2005 or 2006.
1 67 Satelite: Blue/auto in Finland.

In additon to this list, there was a 66 Plymouth Belv II, Dark Green/4 speed built in St. Louis, late March 1966.

To call it 'sleeper' was an understatement...


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1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
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1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: massdaytona] #506073
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typical,cool post turns into a pi.ssin match if detroit/nyc is better 40 yrs ago,and if they made a 4 door or not....

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typical,cool post turns into a pi.ssin match if detroit/nyc is better 40 yrs ago,and if they made a 4 door or not....




Well NYC 4 door cars were the faster cars from coast 2 coast 40 years ago...........J/K

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typical,cool post turns into a pi.ssin match if detroit/nyc is better 40 yrs ago,and if they made a 4 door or not....




Yeeesh. You're the first to bring true negativity to the thread.

I'm done with any input. Sorry for hijack.


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1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s [Re: imfixinmopars426] #506076
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typical,cool post turns into a pi.ssin match if detroit/nyc is better 40 yrs ago,




pissing match??? one guys says detroit was da place, i say new york.. what pissin match??

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