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Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: Bob_Coomer] #503029 10/21/09 11:36 PM 10/21/09 11:36 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 760 Southington Ct. T turbobitt super stock
turbobitt super stock T Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 760 Southington Ct.	Quote: Keep'em coming guys.. What mods if any are required to the after market MP blocks, I actually have a World. 4.5 bore version. I tried to read the installation instruction on the web site. It would have probably understood it better If I had the parts in front of me, or any experience with these. The Milodon gear drive in my World block cleared without any special grinding. My Pre-World MP block needed more aggressive grinding to some internal boss. 1970 Challenger w/572 Hemi street car and my pride and joy. 1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno. 1976 Cee Bee Avenger Jet Boat - 460 Ford powered.

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: turbobitt] #503030 10/21/09 11:55 PM 10/21/09 11:55 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 411 Portersville, Pa 1badx mopar
1badx mopar Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 411 Portersville, Pa	Mines noisy, it depends on your preference. If I had to do it again I'd go with a belt drive.

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: 1badx] #503031 10/22/09 12:38 AM 10/22/09 12:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 426 Ransom Canyon, Texas M Madness mopar
Madness mopar M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 426 Ransom Canyon, Texas	I've had one for years hanging on the wall that says RAMCHARGERS across the top. Is it common?

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: Madness] #503032 10/22/09 02:34 AM 10/22/09 02:34 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 753 San Diego, CA B brktracr super street
brktracr super street B Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 753 San Diego, CA	I recently put one on my World block, 4.5 bore. Easy installation but a few things we discovered. You will need longer bolts for the electric water pump as the Milodon spaces the water pump out to clear the cover. You will need a new dampner or a spacer behind the existing dampner along with longer bolts for mounting the dampner. Outside of these, I really like the Milodon and it is not very noisy at all. Good luck 1.298 60 ft 6.001 1/8 mile 114 mph 9.52 1/4 mile 140.87 mph @ 3110 lbs

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: brktracr] #503033 10/22/09 04:01 AM 10/22/09 04:01 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,932 Finalnd, Perkele J jyrki master
jyrki master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,932 Finalnd, Perkele	WHAT? I have had two of them in three different big blocks, and switched to belt drive because of the noice. In the engine dyno through mufflers the operator asked several times if the engine is really ok, are you sure that it won't blow up? Other than that it's a good unit, very reliable and accurate, easy to set on after you figure it out etc. However, nothing wrong with a good chain either, and a bunch less $. Plynouth VIP '67 TT IC EFI

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: jyrki] #503034 10/22/09 06:19 AM 10/22/09 06:19 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,629 pa 572charger top fuel
572charger top fuel Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,629 pa	ive had one on my hemi since 2003 makes alittle noise i can hear it at cruise inside my car sounds like a vacuum leak i got mine brand new for 380.00 so i bought it u need it on a hemi or a belt drive last barton ss hemi i saw still had one on it mopar muscle or action did some dyno testing i think the gear drive made the most hp and kept the cam timming dead on !! my mopar 2002 block needed grinding to clearance the idler !!! 606 hemi pump gas best 9.60 at 142mph on motor 05 hemi daytona 1500 go-mango 4wd quadcab 2007 hotrod mag pump gas drags runner up, roadkill nights dodge big tire winner 2018 2019 back to back

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: 572charger] #503035 10/22/09 07:49 AM 10/22/09 07:49 AM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 99 FRANCE / PARIS NENE member
NENE member Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 99 FRANCE / PARIS	Very accurate and very strong, I run it for more than 20 years w/o any trouble. Go for it ! '70 Cuda with a 572 Keith Black / B1 heads with a sheetmetal intake (2 dominators) Lencodrive 3 speed trans. 2350 lbs with me Run 8.04" / 168 mph 1.11" 60 ft Fastest Mopar at the Euro Mopar Nats website : http://vantastic-racing.com/

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: Dodgem] #503036 10/22/09 08:02 AM 10/22/09 08:02 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 976 ontario canada mac56 super stock
mac56 super stock Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 976 ontario canada	Quote: I really like mine got two one in the box form my next 542 and one that came with this JWD 452. First yo put them on with no lower dowel pins and get gear clearance right drill to 5/16 and install 5'16 dowels and that is done. Trick is there are no timing marks! so you get your degree wheel on at TDC! one of these is the cats butt for this!! http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/crtusowidewh.html you turn the cam to .050 lift and turn the crank to the @.050 number you desire and then line the top gear up so 7 bolts line up perfectly and tighten gear then do your regular degree checks to make sure where you are!! the mark things and any advancing and retarding of cam from where you are is done buy lining numbers up to the original 1 mark!! So if you have a 260 @ .050 cam and you want it at 106 you devide 260 by 2 = 130 then you subtract 106 this leave 24 so you want @.050 lift at 24 BTDC (before) That is the cat's meow Barry. I will be getting one of those.

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: mac56] #503037 10/22/09 09:04 AM 10/22/09 09:04 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,172 Ohio T theclutcher top fuel
theclutcher top fuel T Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,172 Ohio	Milodon here, quiet. stay with single idlers, more power and less vibes from what I here.

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: mac56] #503038 10/22/09 09:49 AM 10/22/09 09:49 AM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada Dodgem master
Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/crtusowidewh.html That is the cat's meow Barry. I will be getting one of those. It was so nice when I changed cams as you pull it off do what you got to do put it back on and tighten the set screw no re doing the corrected 0 mark plus the handy 1/2 ratchet use to turn the engine! did a buddys cam timing in AYR in august and he liked it too! LOL!!

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: jyrki] #503039 10/22/09 11:36 AM 10/22/09 11:36 AM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,051 The Great White North RAMM super stock
RAMM super stock Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,051 The Great White North	Quote: WHAT? I have had two of them in three different big blocks, and switched to belt drive because of the noice. In the engine dyno through mufflers the operator asked several times if the engine is really ok, are you sure that it won't blow up? Other than that it's a good unit, very reliable and accurate, easy to set on after you figure it out etc. However, nothing wrong with a good chain either, and a bunch less $. I totally agree with this statement! We fired our 471 up and I thought the dyno was frigged up because of the different and very noticeable noise. I put my stethoscope all over the engine just to make sure and the second I touched the cover it just about tore my ear drums out. I think it does have a lot to do with the idler gear being and integral part of the cover. That being said- timing stays super accurate, once you know how to use the vernier type cam gear you can jack the cam around to whatever you want quickly and easily. My only piece of advice would be to get a GOOD dampener as I think it kicks the crap outta a lesser one pretty fast. J.Rob 2009 PHR\EMC Competitor 2010 PHR\EMC Competitor 2011 PHR\EMC Competitor 2012 PHR\EMC Competitor 2013 PHR\EMC Competitor 2014 HotRod/EMC Competitor 2015 HotRod/EMC NoShow 2016 HotRod/EMC 3rd place SPEC Bigblock 2018 HotRod/EMC 7th place G3

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: RAMM] #503040 10/22/09 11:54 AM 10/22/09 11:54 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 760 Southington Ct. T turbobitt super stock
turbobitt super stock T Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 760 Southington Ct.	Quote: Quote: WHAT? I have had two of them in three different big blocks, and switched to belt drive because of the noice. In the engine dyno through mufflers the operator asked several times if the engine is really ok, are you sure that it won't blow up? Other than that it's a good unit, very reliable and accurate, easy to set on after you figure it out etc. However, nothing wrong with a good chain either, and a bunch less $. I totally agree with this statement! We fired our 471 up and I thought the dyno was frigged up because of the different and very noticeable noise. I put my stethoscope all over the engine just to make sure and the second I touched the cover it just about tore my ear drums out. I think it does have a lot to do with the idler gear being and integral part of the cover. That being said- timing stays super accurate, once you know how to use the vernier type cam gear you can jack the cam around to whatever you want quickly and easily. My only piece of advice would be to get a GOOD dampener as I think it kicks the crap outta a lesser one pretty fast. J.Rob I think its all relative. What one person would consider noisy, another may say its not. The Milodon installed in my Hemi is noisy compared to the other 2 milodon drives I used. I also think its from the idler bolted to the cover instead of the block. AG 1970 Challenger w/572 Hemi street car and my pride and joy. 1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno. 1976 Cee Bee Avenger Jet Boat - 460 Ford powered.

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: turbobitt] #503041 10/22/09 12:33 PM 10/22/09 12:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,924 A shed in England Tig master
Tig master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,924 A shed in England	Have one on a KB block, no mods needed though you have to get the correct damper. Stable timing but noisey. With the mufflers on it sounds like I'm running a procharger. Personally I don't like the noise but I can live with it. '74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: Tig] #503042 10/22/09 02:06 PM 10/22/09 02:06 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,200 UK 6 602heavy pro stock
602heavy pro stock 6 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,200 UK	Milodon gear drive here too , as said already , whistles like a supercharger , the front oil gallery has been modified to spray oil on the gear drive (megablock). The gear drive helps regards the excessive endplay on crank (0.015")

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: Cab_Burge] #503043 10/22/09 03:11 PM 10/22/09 03:11 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,898 Milwaukee WI R_Blaha top fuel
R_Blaha top fuel Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,898 Milwaukee WI	My dad's 496 has a Milodon gear quick change drive and it pushes the water pump out so there is less room from the pulley to the radiator. I have the pete jackson on my hemi, fits under the stock timing cover, was a little less $$ than the Milodon and sounds just the same. LOOKING FOR THE 68 GTS IN THE AVATAR SPOT 1969 Dodge Superbee post coupe 383 1969 Dodge Superbee hardtop 472 hemi 1989 Mustang GT 1993 mustang lx 5.0 2004 screaming yellow cobra 2013 CVO Roadglide

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: R_Blaha] #503044 10/23/09 05:25 AM 10/23/09 05:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,932 Finalnd, Perkele J jyrki master
jyrki master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,932 Finalnd, Perkele	You can get the sound of the Stereos with only a CD cost. I have borken two P&J's, I would never use a floatinig dual idler again. nayway, with the Milodon I actually stated to have torubles in the yearly inspection, not beacause of the exhaust noice, but engines mechanical noice. That's the only reason I switched to Jesel. Plynouth VIP '67 TT IC EFI

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: Dodgeman67] #503045 07/08/11 10:48 AM 07/08/11 10:48 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S. M moparniac master
moparniac master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	I'm bumping this thread up from way back as I noticed I posted in it inquiring about them also and I must say mine seems noisy this time .... Bob you ever get one? Mopar Performance

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: moparniac] #503046 07/08/11 11:22 AM 07/08/11 11:22 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I've been running a KB gear set for about 12 years now on my 2 race engines(small blocks)... no noise and timing is dead steady... just have to set the back lash on the idler to the specs and drill and tap 1 hole... They are pretty nice... loosen a few screws and you can change the cam timing(degree marks on the cam gear) I also have a KB for a BB as well as a aussie belt drive which is new... I'm in the process of selling off my BB stuff

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: MR_P_BODY] #503047 07/08/11 11:39 AM 07/08/11 11:39 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,509 PA moparacer master
moparacer master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,509 PA	We run one in our small block too. Cant even tell its in there. 67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119 68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152 414 cid SB Dragster 7.65-174

Re: Milodon gear drive users come on in [Re: moparacer] #503048 07/08/11 11:52 PM 07/08/11 11:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 993 Louisville, MS Dustedu super stock
Dustedu super stock Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 993 Louisville, MS	I got about eight years on mine, no problems and its not loud on the smallblock

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