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727 billet steel drum? #500045 10/18/09 08:50 AM 10/18/09 08:50 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 684 Milwaukee ToddP OP super street
ToddP OP super street Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 684 Milwaukee	TCS 123900S (billet steel) $535.00 TCS 123900SH ( billet steel, big piston) $645.00 A & A 22555BSBPWR ( billet steel ) $775.00 Which one would you use, and why?

Re: 727 billet steel drum? [Re: ToddP] #500046 10/18/09 09:47 AM 10/18/09 09:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Indiana 6 65dragnet super stock
65dragnet super stock 6 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Indiana	any of them would be better than a stock, for sure. I have one from CRT been running it for four years ,it's just mild steel (1018) and came with a billet piston. No issues with it and I feel alot more safe and secure. I won't run without it ! I know for sure that A&A's drums are made from 4140 or 4150 steel and heat treated and spun tested,I got a tour through Rick's shop when they were machining the drums and that's why they cost much more.Don't know anything about TCS. I do know that John Cope and Rick Allison are the two best people I have ever dealt with. Last edited by 65dragnet; 10/18/09 09:54 AM. E. Williams 65 Coronet 500 3400lbs w/d, 446, Indy EZ'S, A&A transbrake,Comp 650 lift cam, 6.50 @ 105 mph 1/8th 10.25 @ 130mph 1/4

Re: 727 billet steel drum? [Re: 65dragnet] #500047 10/18/09 10:01 AM 10/18/09 10:01 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	Mi also came from CRT

Re: 727 billet steel drum? [Re: WILD BILL] #500048 10/18/09 12:08 PM 10/18/09 12:08 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,305 Hobart,Indiana MoparPitBull Hollywood
MoparPitBull Hollywood Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,305 Hobart,Indiana	mine is A&A.

Re: 727 billet steel drum? [Re: MoparPitBull] #500049 10/18/09 12:23 PM 10/18/09 12:23 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	A&A here also [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 727 billet steel drum? [Re: B G Racing] #500050 10/18/09 12:28 PM 10/18/09 12:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,563 S.E. Michigan cl440 master
cl440 master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,563 S.E. Michigan	Tcs makes some great stuff!!! We have been running ours for a few years now and it looks as good as new! 5552450-Duster4-26-09.jpg (147 downloads)

Re: 727 billet steel drum? [Re: cl440] #500051 10/18/09 08:53 PM 10/18/09 08:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,431 USA S SSAAHemiFan top fuel
SSAAHemiFan top fuel S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,431 USA	In the past the A&A drum was spin tested sucessfully to a higher RPM than some of the other manufacturers steel drums. I don't know if the others have since caught up ?

Re: 727 billet steel drum? [Re: ToddP] #500052 10/20/09 08:28 AM 10/20/09 08:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,376 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,376 Marion, South Carolina [><]	A&A from CRT. Because it's a higher quality drum than the TCS. CHIP CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: 727 billet steel drum? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #500053 10/20/09 09:34 AM 10/20/09 09:34 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 416 Eagleville Tn. rtstreet mopar
rtstreet mopar Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 416 Eagleville Tn.	A&A all the way, having had a stock drum come apart and brake my foot, push the convertor forward and brake 4 chunks out of the block plus pull the cam freeze plug out,bend the gas pedal over to touch the brake, car on fire, etc. the extra cost was worth it. I run aluminum in race aps and steele in street/strip. Andy Mayes www.mayesperformance.com

Re: 727 billet steel drum? [Re: ToddP] #500054 10/20/09 09:41 AM 10/20/09 09:41 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	I have the TCS drum & piston combo in mine and have no complaints.

Re: 727 billet steel drum? [Re: BradH] #500055 10/20/09 12:04 PM 10/20/09 12:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,771 Cedar Lake IN CRT master
CRT master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,771 Cedar Lake IN	The TCS is a good billet drum , A&A billet drum is the best drum money can buy. I have installed both types, some times I felt that TCS could be machined to a nicer finish and fit. All the A&A drums I have bought/installed have been 100% perfect. If your on a budget, get the TCS, if you what the best of the best, then go with A&A. There is only a $160.00 differance in price between the two in stock piston size.

Re: 727 billet steel drum? [Re: CRT] #500056 10/20/09 01:10 PM 10/20/09 01:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,491 the boonies aarcuda I Live Here
aarcuda I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,491 the boonies	what is the benefit of the big piston?

Re: 727 billet steel drum? [Re: aarcuda] #500057 10/20/09 02:38 PM 10/20/09 02:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,771 Cedar Lake IN CRT master
CRT master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,771 Cedar Lake IN	The bigger the piston the more clamping force/holding power is on the clutches. lets say that the stock piston is 5 square inchs (its not, I am just useing round numbers to make this easy) you take the PSI(150) reading off the gage and X the square inch 150 x 5 = 750 pounds of applied force add one square inch to the piston aka big piston 150 x 6 = 900 pounds of applied force I use big piston billet drums on 900+ HP cars and or NOS / blower / turbo cars.

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