ladder bar car now goes hard right to the wall
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10/12/09 07:19 AM
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car was leaving straight and now each pass its going hard to the right.
only change was a front torsion bar adjustment, could this effect the launch?
how do you take the preload out a triple adjustable outlaw bar, and readjust? im thinking drivers side got too much preload or something. the rear is all new Strange Dana S60 with double coilovers.
i'm new to the ladder bar game.Nick
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Re: ladder bar car now goes hard right to the wall
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10/12/09 08:38 AM
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car was leaving straight and now each pass its going hard to the right.
only change was a front torsion bar adjustment, could this effect the launch?
how do you take the preload out a triple adjustable outlaw bar, and readjust? im thinking drivers side got too much preload or something. the rear is all new Strange Dana S60 with double coilovers.
i'm new to the ladder bar game.Nick
Yes adjusting the T-bars will change the pre-load,
normally you will adjust the right bar to change the
pre-load.... to 0 the pre-load, 0 your adjuster on
the bar (not the front heim) so you can pull the
front heim bolt out freely by hand... set the pinion
angle with the left adjuster and then adjust the right
bar so the bolt slides back in(make sure the rearend
is square in the car by using the heims) .... try
it with 0 pre load... if it goes to the right on the
launch ADD pre-load(adds weight to the right rear
tire(the bar pushes down harder on the tire)
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Re: ladder bar car now goes hard right to the wall
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10/12/09 06:07 PM
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car was leaving straight and now each pass its going hard to the right.
only change was a front torsion bar adjustment, could this effect the launch?
how do you take the preload out a triple adjustable outlaw bar, and readjust? im thinking drivers side got too much preload or something. the rear is all new Strange Dana S60 with double coilovers.
i'm new to the ladder bar game.Nick
Yes adjusting the T-bars will change the pre-load,
normally you will adjust the right bar to change the
pre-load.... to 0 the pre-load, 0 your adjuster on
the bar (not the front heim) so you can pull the
front heim bolt out freely by hand... set the pinion
angle with the left adjuster and then adjust the right
bar so the bolt slides back in(make sure the rearend
is square in the car by using the heims) .... try
it with 0 pre load... if it goes to the right on the
launch ADD pre-load(adds weight to the right rear
tire(the bar pushes down harder on the tire)
so are you saying to put preload on the top angled bar with preload, like 1/2 turn to start.
the bottom parallel bar isn't touched since that the bar that connects to the crossmember and rear,the top angled bar is turned to add preload?Nick
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Re: ladder bar car now goes hard right to the wall
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10/12/09 06:12 PM
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car was leaving straight and now each pass its going hard to the right.
only change was a front torsion bar adjustment, could this effect the launch?
how do you take the preload out a triple adjustable outlaw bar, and readjust? im thinking drivers side got too much preload or something. the rear is all new Strange Dana S60 with double coilovers.
i'm new to the ladder bar game.Nick
Yes adjusting the T-bars will change the pre-load,
normally you will adjust the right bar to change the
pre-load.... to 0 the pre-load, 0 your adjuster on
the bar (not the front heim) so you can pull the
front heim bolt out freely by hand... set the pinion
angle with the left adjuster and then adjust the right
bar so the bolt slides back in(make sure the rearend
is square in the car by using the heims) .... try
it with 0 pre load... if it goes to the right on the
launch ADD pre-load(adds weight to the right rear
tire(the bar pushes down harder on the tire)
so are you saying to put preload on the top angled bar with preload, like 1/2 turn to start.
the bottom parallel bar isn't touched since that the bar that connects to the crossmember and rear,the top angled bar is turned to add preload?Nick
No the bottom heim joint back at the rear end is where you make your adjustment, I would do like Mike said first then adjust if needed. 
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Re: ladder bar car now goes hard right to the wall
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10/12/09 07:44 PM
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car was leaving straight and now each pass its going hard to the right.
only change was a front torsion bar adjustment, could this effect the launch?
how do you take the preload out a triple adjustable outlaw bar, and readjust? im thinking drivers side got too much preload or something. the rear is all new Strange Dana S60 with double coilovers.
i'm new to the ladder bar game.Nick
Yes adjusting the T-bars will change the pre-load,
normally you will adjust the right bar to change the
pre-load.... to 0 the pre-load, 0 your adjuster on
the bar (not the front heim) so you can pull the
front heim bolt out freely by hand... set the pinion
angle with the left adjuster and then adjust the right
bar so the bolt slides back in(make sure the rearend
is square in the car by using the heims) .... try
it with 0 pre load... if it goes to the right on the
launch ADD pre-load(adds weight to the right rear
tire(the bar pushes down harder on the tire)
so are you saying to put preload on the top angled bar with preload, like 1/2 turn to start.
the bottom parallel bar isn't touched since that the bar that connects to the crossmember and rear,the top angled bar is turned to add preload?Nick
No the bottom heim joint back at the rear end is where you make your adjustment, I would do like Mike said first then adjust if needed.
i got triple adjustable, i dont understand what all these bars do then?
what does the straight bar on each side do, meaning the lower bar?
what does the angled bar do, the top one, seems only adjustment that would make more hit on the tire is the angled one , not the one attached to the front crossmember.  i'm so 
Nick
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Re: ladder bar car now goes hard right to the wall
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10/12/09 08:11 PM
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what happens when you tighten up on the upper diagonal bar?thanks for all your help so far. Nick
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Re: ladder bar car now goes hard right to the wall
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10/12/09 10:29 PM
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what happens when you tighten up on the upper diagonal bar?thanks for all your help so far. Nick
When you shorten the upper right bar on your set up
you will be adding pre-load(which pushes down on the
right rear tire making it work harder)... but start
with the rear square and the proper pinion angle then
0 pre-load, if it still goes right shorten the upper
right bar by 1/2 turn... you will have to play with
it till it launches stright
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